Yes I can and I agree to some extent. I just think that there are quite a few people that think momentum is the definition of style and use it as an excuse from time to time to justify poor performance.
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Yes I can and I agree to some extent. I just think that there are quite a few people that think momentum is the definition of style and use it as an excuse from time to time to justify poor performance.
For those who think an out of control dog can have style, I have another label...unenlightened enthusiasm.:p
I'm with you there, Scott. Over quite a few years the terms "Style" and "Momentum" have been used interchabably, including uses to eliminate dogs from tests & trials. Lack of style is something the AKC rules allow a judge to penalize a dog for, up to and including elimination. Below is a quote from AKC Field Trials - One Judges Perspective, by John Cavanaugh and Mitch Patterson - two of the most solid sources on such topics. This is page 5
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I get the impression we're pretty close on our overall interpretation.
Evan
Hey Scott...here is what style LOOKS like!
BTW...this is Wrangler :-)
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p...6_NGAf12_W.jpg
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Dog is obviously out-a-control Keith . All four legs tucked!
What kinda' water dog is that?! Can't even swim???:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Keith Farmer
Great picture
....and where did John get this? Right out of the FT rulebook, which is a pretty solid source also.Quote:
Originally Posted by Evan
(7) Style is apparent in every movement of a dog and throughout his entire performance at trials, for example: by the gaiety of his manner in approaching the line, by his alertness on-line, by his eagerness and speed on retrieves, by his water-entry, by his pick-up of birds and by his return with them. Style makes for a pleasing performance; together with ability to mark, they constitute the most important factors for placings in Derby Stakes.
In all stakes, in respect to “style,’’ a desired performance includes: (a) an alert and obedient attitude, (b) a fast-determined departure, both on land and into the water, (c) an aggressive search for the “fall,’’ (d) a prompt pick-up, and (e) a reasonably fast return. Dogs may be credited for outstanding and brilliant exhibitions of style, or they may be penalized for deficiencies in style — the severity of the penalty ranging from a minor demerit, to elimination from the..........
My co-judge I and dropped 2 many years ago on water blinds..Same handler...Steve SQuote:
Originally Posted by fishduck
No... but I've wanted to. Stopped judging AKC years ago because between the local club and AKC they seemed incapable of tracking judging assignments. I've judged HRC for many years since then. Never dropped a dog for style, but like I said, I've wanted to. You know style, or lack of when you see it, but most dogs lacking it take themselves out for other reasons so the point becomes moot. JDQuote:
Originally Posted by fishduck