Yes, as long as you get that little creeping issue smoothed out before moving on. It doesn't look like it will take much.
Evan
Yes, as long as you get that little creeping issue smoothed out before moving on. It doesn't look like it will take much.
Evan
DT, I've trained exactly one dog through pattern blinds so I have no advice about the "problem" you see. But it looks like you got an answer from several very experienced people: don't worry about the line.
I am curious, though. As you were teaching her the line to the pile, backing up gradually, she had to run through the patch you think she is avoiding. What did she do? At what point did the alleged problem appear?
The lack of steadiness at the line may haunt you as you try to progress on blinds. If she is not steady at your side, it is hard (for me) to imagine that she is steady in the field some distance away from you. Just newbie thoughts.
In our progression back to the line he started the flair thing once we were sending at 80yards and she got to the minimal cover at 60yards.Quote:
Originally Posted by mitty
And in regards to the creep i was preventing with the finger, she lines up and when i say dead bird she inches forward, then if i say good girl she may inch forward again. But i figure i can fix this i wa just letting her get away with it for the time being and not hammering a correction on it that might slow her momentum.
One more thing I wanted to say, I think posting a Youtube video of you and your dog is brilliant. I usually don't offer an opinion on training issues as so much is lost in translation. People who are new to dog training tend to misinterpret what their dog is doing and thinking, and they project an assumption that may be wrong. Then we go on for pages making trianing suggestions that could be the exact wrong approach because we didn't see the dog personally.
This video is a good example, DT viewed it as a problem with his dog flairing off cover, when the real problem was the initial line, the dog was actually correcting herself as he closed in on the blind. Another thing DT never mentioned that he had to hold his dog's collar to keep her from creeping as he didn't view that as a problem, or very important at this stage, watching the video, some have pointed out that issue as well.
John
Should i worrie about the initial line or fix this after linin drills...
I would go to wagon wheel drills and work on the sit - "dead bird" cue and lining with "here-heel". Then go back to the pattern blind after she is solid in sitting and lining up properly.Quote:
Originally Posted by dtmanring
John is quite right about Wagon Wheel Lining drills. On patterns you should pay attention to your dynamics, as you should when sending on any other retrieves. But initial lines are taught on WWLD. Specifically, the first WWLD with a circle of 8 small white bumpers. (the inner ring)
http://www.rushcreekpress.com/images/222_ww2.JPG
The outer ring are orange bumpers, and are set significantly past the white bumpers. On the first stage (white bumpers-only) the drill is more about positioning and moving with the handler than lining. Once you move on to lining between the whites to the orange you are working on initial lines.
Are these drills familiar to you?
Evan
This is the 8-bumper version you should start with.
http://www.rushcreekpress.com/images/222_ww3.JPG
Evan
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Originally Posted by Evan
Yes sir these are familiar, i thought they were started later in training after pb.?
Bold added by me.Quote:
And in regards to the creep i was preventing with the finger, she lines up and when i say dead bird she inches forward, then if i say good girl she may inch forward again. But i figure i can fix this i wa just letting her get away with it for the time being
You fix this by never letting it develop into a problem in the first place. In basic puppy/hot dog/cookie training and later in collar conditioning the dog should have been taught a solid sit standard. Now you've got a bad habit to break. Easier to not let it develop int he first place.