FC/AFC Chocolate Labs?????

The source of the chocolate was Dale's Double Hope, a very well bred and great producer who produced another FC/AFC when bred to Percy, Esprit Playin for Keeps, who I think also threw chocolate.

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Originally Posted by EdA

t I do not recall anyone strongly expecting chocolate so when two chocolate males appeared it was somewhat of a surprise. I know this because I knew both dogs and their owners were personal friends.

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I do like history what happened to the other coco? Wasn't Higher Grounds Helen Keller QAA a full litter-mate to Rascal? Blue Thunder did put his mark on FT chocolates

Helen was black and a littermate, the breeding was only done once, the other chocolate was a male Ripin Don Diego Delavega otherwise known as Zorro

i know helen whelped one titled choc when bred to choc? was she not also bred to a black dog? did any title from other breedings?(my good dog info subsc. must be out)

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Originally Posted by roseberry

i know helen whelped one titled choc when bred to choc? was she not also bred to a black dog? did any title from other breedings?(my good dog info subsc. must be out)

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Helen was bred twice, the chocolate FC was sired by Barracuda Blue (I think he was black), Cuda's Blue Ryder, she was also bred to Blackwater Rudy which did not produce anything notable.

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Originally Posted by scott spalding

Try and name 20 people who are actively campaigning Chocolate labs in field trials? When I say campaigning I mean running at least 15 trials a year. The percentage has to be based on participation and there are only a handful that have devoted this amount of time. On a side note everyone I know that is has a titled chocolate.

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There are so many factors that go into making a competitive dog. Color is the least of my worries. Getting your hands on a good dog that can handle today's field trial work is your first task. Not screwing it up is your second task. If you are a working amateur training your own dog, time is a MAJOR factor. Grounds, water, help, birds, equipment, and the list goes on. Let's don't even talk about money or an understanding spouse.

Scott mentioned another extremely important factor - the number of trials that you run each year. I only wish I could run 15 or more trials per year. Roux averaged 9.7 trials per year from 2006 - 2012 not counting the national am in 2010 and 2012. The attitude that the chocolates can't compete with the others is just plain crap, but that's ok by me! Soooo glad I didn't listen to the nay sayers when we started this ride.

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A good dog is hard to find period that can mark, run blinds, and like water. We have been lucky to title 2 chocolates. FC/AFC JINX and AFC TIDE.I liked the challenge to train a brown dog. I would like to find another but, a good brown is hard to find. Looking for another challenge and good chocolate. Any one can train the black ones.

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Originally Posted by EdA

Helen was bred twice, the chocolate FC was sired by Barracuda Blue (I think he was black), Cuda's Blue Ryder, she was also bred to Blackwater Rudy which did not produce anything notable.

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FC AFC Barracuda Blue was chocolate. He was a very neat dog.

WRL

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Originally Posted by WRL

FC AFC Barracuda Blue was chocolate. He was a very neat dog.

WRL

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Spent an evening with Cuda when he was at Mary's in 97-98 NEAT was right, almost as neat as his son, poster boy on the left.
The problem with good chocolate stud dogs is not enough people with a black bitch that is not chcoolate factored will breed to them.

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Originally Posted by EdA

The source of the chocolate was Dale's Double Hope, a very well bred and great producer who produced another FC/AFC when bred to Percy, Esprit Playin for Keeps, who I think also threw chocolate.

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Which came from Dudes double or nothin, passed it to Snake eye as well.