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One works when dirty,muddy,sandy,etc the other doesn't. Piston vs gas driven. One is designed for target saturation, one is made to be accurate for well aimed shots. But they are not the same and do not have the same ideas going into the designs. They both are good at certain things but they are usually used for different purposes.Quote:
Originally Posted by dixidawg
Gooser - I paid $52.50 for the permit, obtained from local LE - I personally don't expect goofy Joe's committee to come up with anything useful - you know it will not be in the best interests of the nation nor solve anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by MooseGooser
Eliminating Gun Free Zones is not bureaucratic enough ;).
in Louisiana we just passed state legislation to make it much more difficult to take away an individual's gun rights.Quote:
Originally Posted by MooseGooser
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Originally Posted by MooseGooser
My responces are in red.
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Originally Posted by Franco
Have you paid attention to the SC Justices Obama has placed in his first term? He will likely appoint two more during this term, giving those whack jobs the majority on the biggest decisions in America.
Local editorial:Quote:
Originally Posted by road kill
Editorial
Americans draw on a deep well of compassion in times of trouble.
Gun laws: Resist the rush to just ‘do something’
Our desire to “do something” runs deep. We light a candle, leave a flower, give a dollar.
On a larger scale, we organize, mobilize and strategize to solve problems and rush to help those in need.
That rush, however, shouldn’t extend to “quick fixes” and immediate changes to gun laws in Minnesota and elsewhere in the nation in the aftermath of the Connecticut elementary school shootings. Public policy issues as complex as those involved with Americans’ Second Amendment rights require a thoughtful, deliberative process based on facts.
Some Minnesota political leaders are saying it’s time for a serious examination of the state’s gun laws, the Pioneer Press’ Megan Boldt reported this week. And such study seems a reasonable first step, considering the need to gather information broadly and include a broad range of implications, from mental health issues to school security.
But just days after the tragedy, gun-rights advocates are concerned that “hysteria in the aftermath of this shooting will ultimately result in bad laws that do nothing to protect the public,” the report said.
Concern about gun laws is justified, and incoming DFL public safety committee chairs were among those speaking out this week.
“I think the federal government and every state in this nation has the responsibility to evaluate their gun laws in the aftermath of this horrific shooting,” Rep. Michael Paymar of St. Paul said in Boldt’s report.
Sen. Scott Dibble of Minneapolis was quoted saying that calls from constituents about the issue began after a September incident in a Minneapolis workplace in which a former employee killed six people before turning the gun on himself.
“I do sense there’s a shifting attitude on this issue,” Dibble said. “This latest tragedy is just so appalling and heinous, it begs a host of questions about our gun laws and our state of mental health services.”
Meanwhile, Republican Rep. Tony Cornish of Vernon Center got attention for a proposal to allow teachers with permits to arm themselves in their classrooms.
Gov. Mark Dayton was among those critical of the concept. The governor, who said he has no plan to present immediate changes in gun laws to the 2013 Legislature, also touched on an important caution for lawmakers: He’s not sure what additional gun regulations the state could impose without infringing on Second Amendment rights to bear arms.
Some have suggested, however, that addressing loopholes that allow people to buy firearms at gun shows without background checks is among measures that might be considered.
Whatever they do, DFL leaders, who won control of the state Legislature in the election just past, will need to craft proposals that will win broad support that includes members of their own party from greater Minnesota — and also address deep divisions on the issue among Minnesotans, evidenced perhaps by a spike this week in applications for firearms permits in some metro-area counties.
As they proceed, lawmakers surely will realize that urgency borne by compassion is one thing, but a rush to quick solutions is quite another. Doing “something” often solves nothing.
Seems like my COLORADO CC ,,would not be honored in Conneticut?
http://www.usacarry.com/colorado_con...formation.html
Also as per Francos respose ,, the Bill of rights already gives me the right of possesion.. Whats Concealed carry all about,, The concealment??
Ok... I wont conceal it!!
Also note in the Colorado law OPEN carry is permitted in some jurisdictions..
Use to be common place here in Colorado during a Big game season.. Many would wear a side arm when hunting... Go into resturants while it was openly present on their belts??
Dont see that much anymore...
Gooser
Do you know what it takes to change an Amendment? It would only go to the SC only after an Amendment were altered and challenged. There aren't enough Dems in Congress to change an Amendment. In regards to the SC, what does Liberal or Conservative mean today? Todays Conservative isn't what yesterday's definition of Conservative meant. The SC has always ebbed and flowed with Justices of different opinions. Presidents have always appointed Justices of their political leaning. What has changed?Quote:
Originally Posted by Didley
So,, as Franco pointed out, my gun rights are primarily protected under such laws as the bill of rights constitution, and are enforced by the Supreme Court.
Tell me why then, folks in certain cities have protected themselves in their own homes, and then had to resort to legal representation and in one case had to spend time and money to take the case to the Supreme Court to keep himself from prosecution? (Chicago case)
Explain to me why there is such thing as a "concealed Carry permit required?
Explain to me why some places open carry is permitted, But in others it's against the law?
I f the constitution is truly the law of the land, why the discrepancies???
It's called States' Rights.Quote:
Originally Posted by MooseGooser
The President can direct the AG to attempt to stop whatever the President feels he has a right to under Federal Law. Could be Arizona and thier immigartion laws, Co and Wa and thier MJ laws or Mississippi and their Abortion laws. Any challenge to States' Rights can be tied up in the variuos courts for eternity.
Conceal Carry are state laws and not challenged by any Federal Laws except for Gun Free Zones.
However, if Joe Biden and the rest of the Repubs and Dems that wish to infringe on our Rghts to defend ourselves were really serious about preventing violent deaths, maybe they should look at banning booze! Lets ban all booze and offer folks a nice cold Chai tea instead!
Alcohol abuse kills some 75,000 Americans each year and shortens the lives of these people by an average of 30 years, a U.S. government study suggested Thursday. Looks like to me that booze, Big Macs and smokes killed more than twice as many folks than any firearm!
Excessive alcohol consumption is the third leading cause of preventable death in the United States after tobacco use and poor eating and exercise habits.
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, which published the study, estimated that 34,833 people in 2001 died from cirrhosis of the liver, cancer and other diseases linked to drinking too much beer, wine and spirits.
Another 40,933 died from car crashes and other mishaps caused by excessive alcohol use.