HMMMMM....Looks Like I Was Correct!!!

NO not OK with the deletion of PE. Dad killed in car wreck when I was 6 wearing seat belt. I had a pretty bad one in highschool also wearing seatbelt and not a scratch, but am certain would have gone through windshield if unbelted. ALL research and ALL evidence PROVES that seatbelts SAVE lives, so your argument there is just, well I really hate to use the term, but, stupid.

As to smoking, the biggest problem I have there is that it isn't fatal quickly or reliably enough. If you have paid ANY attention to my posts over the last couple of years, you know that I am mostly a misanthrope and think that there are way too many people on this little blue sphere and so don't really care if folks commit suicide, just wish they would use more reliable means than tobacco use. If it worked more reliably and faster, it would be a good tool to help raise the collective IQ. Actually goes for ADULTS and seat belts too.

About time for me to sign off and am going to be out for a few days, so:

Merry Christmas, y un prospero ano nuevo! Pray for RAIN!!!

Hugh

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Originally Posted by Marvin S

I'll keep this brief as there is a lot to do before the holidays but:

OBESITY - Are you OK with most schools dropping Phys Ed, when that's the only part of government that seemed to help?

SEAT BELTS - What part did you miss about them being a major revenue source? for the government that is - We raised 4 boys without seat belts, somehow managed to get through all that without damaging them, we must have been doing it wrong :confused:.

SMOKING - You didn't address this, I await your reply - & then I'll have more :).

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I have always viewed HPL as a quasi conservative...kinda a tree-hugger-saving-spotted-owls cause promoter that carries a gun... on occassion. He will frequently espouse a form of cradle-to-grave governmental mandates, like his views on seat belts, and I suspect automobile air bags. I often wonder if those imposed government 'safety' costs, that increase what's charged to the consumer, ever enlighten him? Has he ever considered that in the current environment of CTG G-ment 'protection'...like uninsured and UNDERinsured motorist coverage the current laws require all of us law-abiding car owners to carry, that all we succeed in doing is enlarging the pool of non-responsible drivers? Hellsbells, some of these ignoramuses jump into these vehicles and act like they are in a bumper-car, with no responsibilities at all.

Living in a nation regulated by a Constitution that is based on liberty and freedom, it's always amazed me how frequently the leftists are so quick to have those freedoms legislated away...or worse, quick to spend someone elses money to enforce all those newly legislated regulations. The idea of rugged individualism is lost among these socialist/communistic thinkers. How could some of these folks, that call themselves Americans, have allowed the "free-ice-cream" crowd to foolishly put in place a regime that has a vendetta to ruin this country. We laugh at the imbiciles in California that voted in more taxes, so they presumably could continue to get their freebies, having no thought whatsoever about what happens when the producers quit...and leave.

The Bill Bonner column I posted pretty much sums up my thoughts on our current condition in this nation. It's doubtful either of our great grandkids will get out from under this crushing debt. The government spending will continue until we have turned this nation into another Greece, and we are powerless to stop it.

UB

unbelievable(but not surprised) how much misinformation was out there

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NO not OK with the deletion of PE. Dad killed in car wreck when I was 6 wearing seat belt. I had a pretty bad one in highschool also wearing seatbelt and not a scratch, but am certain would have gone through windshield if unbelted. ALL research and ALL evidence PROVES that seatbelts SAVE lives, so your argument there is just, well I really hate to use the term, but, stupid.

As to smoking, the biggest problem I have there is that it isn't fatal quickly or reliably enough. If you have paid ANY attention to my posts over the last couple of years, you know that I am mostly a misanthrope and think that there are way too many people on this little blue sphere and so don't really care if folks commit suicide, just wish they would use more reliable means than tobacco use. If it worked more reliably and faster, it would be a good tool to help raise the collective IQ. Actually goes for ADULTS and seat belts too.

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If you don't care if people live or die then why would you want them to wear a seat belt. You seem to contradict yourself all in one breath.
Pete

I think that was aired on the 15th. Since then, the ME has come out saying the wounds he saw were from a rifle. No idea which is correct.

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I think that was aired on the 15th. Since then, the ME has come out saying the wounds he saw were from a rifle. No idea which is correct.

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There has been so much misinformation, I would hate to guess. I will say that after Friday, I watched no coverage of the shooting until the middle of this week. The information coming out was ESPECIALLY inaccurate the first day or two, so I personally completely stopped paying attention until everything could get sorted out. That, and I refuse to let the media suck me into obsessing over stuff like this. But I would be shocked if the medical examiner was unclear about the bullets he/she found in the victims. Has anyone heard what these handguns were? What calibre?

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There has been so much misinformation, I would hate to guess. I will say that after Friday, I watched no coverage of the shooting until the middle of this week. The information coming out was ESPECIALLY inaccurate the first day or two, so I personally completely stopped paying attention until everything could get sorted out. That, and I refuse to let the media suck me into obsessing over stuff like this. But I would be shocked if the medical examiner was unclear about the bullets he/she found in the victims. Has anyone heard what these handguns were? What calibre?

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the initial reports were that it was a 10mm Glock and a 9mm SigSauer...but I am with you with all the misinformation out there its hard to believe anything right now

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There has been so much misinformation, I would hate to guess. I will say that after Friday, I watched no coverage of the shooting until the middle of this week. The information coming out was ESPECIALLY inaccurate the first day or two, so I personally completely stopped paying attention until everything could get sorted out. That, and I refuse to let the media suck me into obsessing over stuff like this. But I would be shocked if the medical examiner was unclear about the bullets he/she found in the victims. Has anyone heard what these handguns were? What calibre?

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Sig & Glock, not heard or read calber ID'd.

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the initial reports were that it was a 10mm Glock and a 9mm SigSauer...but I am with you with all the misinformation out there its hard to believe anything right now

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The first day, the Lt. in charge issued a statement that the "bushmaster" was found in the car.

That information dissappeared.

I searched for it, the video finally came up.

I also have heard a criminal defense attorney state that he has never read an ME's report that stated rifle vs. hand gun ID of wounds.

I have also read recently that 4 hand guns were found, but now I can't find that article, just someone else referencing it as well.
There is also information that the school had video survellience, where are the tapes (or whatever they use to record)????

Far too many 'agendas' being protected by disallowing correct information to be released. It's almost impossible to not be cynical, when so much 'confusion' has run rampant throughout this investigation. I wouldn't trust anything being released at this time.

UB