The Angie Becker Challenge

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Originally Posted by paul young

I agree! Angie Becker training any breed to an FC - that's a hoot!-Paul

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I'm not so sure about that Paul!! One can accomplish anything if they set their mind to it,,,, even you....:cool:

Angie

Looks like RTF 13 is off to a great start!!

Aaron

No Kidding! This is the good stuff:D

http://i1096.photobucket.com/albums/...35F30F76F9.jpg

I remember when jellobabe was a hardcore retriever trainer. Know she just prances around the ring with a shiny new lead attached to a Chessie of all things. I think hell froze over...

/Paul

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Originally Posted by Angie B

No he did not!!! :)

Not interested. I have neither the time or inclination. Remember I train dogs for a living and wasting valuable time on something I'm not interested in is just that. The only dogs I train that are mine personally are dogs that are part of my breeding program.

I'm flattered that you took the time to make the offer.

Angie

I also don't think you know what you're talking about. IMHO

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What exactly is it that I don't know what I'm talking about? Feel free to ask me whatever you want.

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Originally Posted by crackerd

Yeah, the best part was the unspoken challenge tripling the bet if Angie could put on an FC on a Cavalier King Charles spaniel. Alas, like ESS running an AKC retriever MH test - or any other breeds besides ESS and cockers running spaniel field trials - it's purely hypothetical.

MG

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I'll tell you one bet I wouldn't take is that you would be unable to produce pictures of a Cavalier retrieving a fox or a rabbit or some other roadkill given enough time. I personally don't understand why cockers and springers don't run against each other in the U.S. Seems to work fine In Canada. The only other breed I can think of that may have an outside shot in a spaniel trial is a Boykin, the rest would have about as much of a chance as a curly coated retiever at a retriever trial.

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Originally Posted by Gun_Dog2002

I remember when jellobabe was a hardcore retriever trainer. Know she just prances around the ring with a shiny new lead attached to a Chessie of all things. I think hell froze over...

/Paul

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Could possibly be?? I'm gonna see if "I" can title a CH... It will be fun trying...

Angie

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Originally Posted by Angie B

Could possibly be?? I'm gonna see if "I" can title a CH... It will be fun trying...

Angie

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At least with a Chessie, you stand a chance of titling a CH. The way lab CH's are built, not to much chance. ;)

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Originally Posted by jwdavis

I personally don't understand why cockers and springers don't run against each other in the U.S. Seems to work fine In Canada. The only other breed I can think of that may have an outside shot in a spaniel trial is a Boykin, the rest would have about as much of a chance as a curly coated retiever at a retriever trial.

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No question - especially given the lame minor spaniel breed clubs in this country. That is, unless all the minor spaniels consorted and came up with an A/V (any variety [other than springers and cockers]) trial a few times a year. Hell would not just freeze over but send up iceberg missiles before that would happen.

And that's what makes it even more pitiful and affirms what you said about the minor breeds being "damn near a lost cause" as gundogs - because from this kind of A/V trial, as is held in the UK, you could earn an FC essentially competing against your own breed of dogs.

If - and what an "if," as in "if wishes were Secretariat, you'd have a lot of horsepower to run with" - they had any interest in field work a'tall. Which they don't, feeble endorsements to the contrary. And there's no way enough spaniel - and gundog - lovers could ever import enough working Sussex and Clumbers to have that happen anyway. Double-damned near lost cause, I agree.

MG