Lance Armstrong?

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Originally Posted by roseberry

that is my point stan. i am not complaining about the use of these substances because i believe so many are on them the field was/is level. bonds was bonds with everyone taking, bonds would have been bonds with no one taking. same for armstrong!

i also don't feel there is difference in an athlete taking one performance enhancing substance versus another. i personally can't draw the line between the performance enhancements afforded one by caffiene, nicotene, amphet, steroids, testosterone, hgh, etc. i guess because most of this stuff is in our chicken and our kids are wayyyyy bigger than we were we should just ban chicken too!:(

it is a big bunch of hooey to pin cyclings culture on one villian and major league baseball's culture on a group of ten or so when it is all so much more pervasive.

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But stanazol is banned and an illegal substance, and they know that!

Copenhagen and Lucky's were not banned.

BTW---I don't care if they use.
Hank Aaron is the HR King, end of story!!!

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Originally Posted by road kill

But stanazol is banned and an illegal substance, and they know that!

Copenhagen and Lucky's were not banned.

BTW---I don't care if they use.
Hank Aaron is the HR King, end of story!!!

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Amphetamines?

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Originally Posted by roseberry

that is my point stan. i am not complaining about the use of these substances because i believe so many are on them the field was/is level. bonds was bonds with everyone taking, bonds would have been bonds with no one taking. same for armstrong!

i also don't feel there is difference in an athlete taking one performance enhancing substance versus another. i personally can't draw the line between the performance enhancements afforded one by caffiene, nicotene, amphet, steroids, testosterone, hgh, etc. i guess because most of this stuff is in our chicken and our kids are wayyyyy bigger than we were we should just ban chicken too!:(

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it is a big bunch of hooey to pin cyclings culture on one villian and major league baseball's culture on a group of ten or so when it is all so much more pervasive.

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Be careful of what you say. there is a term, dang it escapes me, oh wait they call it slander. I happen to raise about 500k of those chickens a year and they have none of the substances you accuse us of using.

So roseberry glasses if you choose to appreciate cheaters knock yourself out but don't accuse me of doing something illegal that you approve of. If you continue to make false accusations it wouldn't be difficult to track you down and file suit. I ask where is your proof of what is being fed to my chickens?

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Originally Posted by roseberry

that is my point stan. i am not complaining about the use of these substances because i believe so many are on them the field was/is level. bonds was bonds with everyone taking, bonds would have been bonds with no one taking. same for armstrong!

i also don't feel there is difference in an athlete taking one performance enhancing substance versus another. i personally can't draw the line between the performance enhancements afforded one by caffiene, nicotene, amphet, steroids, testosterone, hgh, etc. i guess because most of this stuff is in our chicken and our kids are wayyyyy bigger than we were we should just ban chicken too!:(

it is a big bunch of hooey to pin cyclings culture on one villian and major league baseball's culture on a group of ten or so when it is all so much more pervasive.

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Roseberry, please don't slander me, I have never fed my chickens caffeine, ever. :D

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Originally Posted by mngundog

Roseberry, please don't slander me, I have never fed my chickens caffeine, ever. :D

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LMAO that is funny.:)

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Originally Posted by duk4me

Be careful of what you say. there is a term, dang it escapes me, oh wait they call it slander. I happen to raise about 500k of those chickens a year and they have none of the substances you accuse us of using.

So roseberry glasses if you choose to appreciate cheaters knock yourself out but don't accuse me of doing something illegal that you approve of. If you continue to make false accusations it wouldn't be difficult to track you down and file suit. I ask where is your proof of what is being fed to my chickens?

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duk4,

i will no longer slander the chicken raising profession. since i consume 1/1000th of your annual output(fried obviously), please provide me with another reason to explain to my wife of why my belly is growing faster than sammy sosa's biceps did?:p

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Originally Posted by mngundog

Amphetamines?

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Are you suggesting Aaron used amphetamines?
Do you have any proof?
Is this simply conjecture??

Just askin'...............

I don't know about Aaron but Mays was widely known to use amphetamines.

Like John said... They are all using something... Hell... I read this morning that golfer Vijay Singh used the deer antler spray that Ray Lewis used. Golfers? It's all about the money.

well the story now is " deer antler spray"....being a long time deer hunter, I wonder if they are actually using doe urine or doe estrus either of which are the most disgusting vile scents you never want to experience...

seriously the deer antler spray is the stuff that game biologists have been using for years to genetically alter these freaks at game farms across the country which produce freaks of nature, by stimulating excessive cell growth


any insinuations that Mays or Aaron cheated are false....they both possessed bodies sculpted by the almighty...Aaron wielded a bat that was only eclipsed by that of Richie Allen...Mays had it all, he was really the first player that would be considered a 5 tool player ..Mays and Aaron also had to face the likes of Koufax,Gibson,Marichal,Spahn,Drysdale, a dead ball and pitchers ball parks...Mays and Aaron didnt need to cheat they were that good....