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Yes Jon, ultimately it will be a toy reward for the dog based on the work they are being prepared for. I'm just not sure they understand time frames, OR there really isn't one. I can't really ask those questions. I just do what they ask of me, in this case teach these guys to handle at short range.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon Couch
We'll get it done, over time. We may even have a new industry standard protocol when we're done.
It's FUN!
Have they thought about using a tug reward instead of a ball you would have a lot more control over the dog. I have recently started using tug rewards and have found it to be very motivating for our retrievers!Quote:
Originally Posted by DarrinGreene
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Originally Posted by Ken Bora
Yes, BUT. Are they training the dog to go open a fridge door and using a ball retrieve as a reward.
Or
Are they training a dog to do a blind retrieve of a duck and the dog is playing keep away with the duck?
Two different scenarios.
Let's all admit, you never know WHAT Darrin is training a dog to do...:cool:
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Originally Posted by Jennifer Henion
A scenario I have seen more than once. Riddle me this Jen.
Miss Molly Minivan comes to a hunt test. He totally in tune with her Golden Retriever Muffy runs out and gets its first live flier. Molly does not have a group to train with and does not belong to a club. She uses no birds in training. Muffy is for some reason birdy as heck and when it gets to that bird, it is like Ray Lewis in a deer antler shop! Muffy grabs that fresh duck and instead of running straight back to Molly runs to the live gunners and circles them a couple times. Then runs to the gallery and shows the duck to all. Then circles the judges a few times in a full and proper victory lap. And then instead of handing Molly the bird runs to the parking area and sits by the door of the minivan ready to go home.
Handle this how, will you?
BTW I been typing about Miss Molly Minivan for about 98 years here on the RTF (we count in dog years here) so this hypothetical scenario in no way reflects you or your training activities or choice of motor vehicles pr retriever breeds. Just a funny happenstance, it is.
Yet the question is valid and not rhetorical.
How would you counsel Molly?
I'm just hacking my way through stuff Jenn. Lots of better trainers than me out there with more experience and more natural ability. I just try to work hard.
"rope" come to mind by any chance Ken?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken Bora
LOL and I've seen that happen at a club training day to a guy who HAS a training group, and an e-collar!
To stop going to tests and to go back to the training yard. First work on fetch from the ground using a duck. Hold the duck and delivery to hand. Then work on short hand thrown duck retrieves, then work on gunner thrown ducks in the field - a lot! Molly has to have at least one friend or family member or paid neighbor kid to help be a live gunner!
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Originally Posted by Jennifer Henion
some folk have beautiful disaster by 311 as a theme song :rolleyes:
You must be younger than I am - I have no idea what you're talking about!:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken Bora
Darrin, you have my respect - glad you have these training opportunities and hope you will share the good stuff with the rest of us!
Jen
311 is a pop music groupQuote:
Originally Posted by Jennifer Henion
beautiful disaster is a song
opening verse-
Today seems like a good day to burn a bridge or two
The one with old wood creaking that would burn away
right on cue
I try to be not like that but some people really shuck
Some people need to get the axing chalk it up to bad
luck
I know a drugstore cowgirl so afraid of getting bored
She's always running from something so many things
ignored
I might do that stuff if it didn't make me feel like
smit
I'm on some old reality tip so many trips in it