Guys and gals. One thing this forum should be is a retriever training forum. That's the name of it!
One thing we should be able to discuss is training. A big part of today's training, especially for someone who is getting started is instructional materials.
If you want to help, feel free to help. If you disagree and have a point that you feel is valid, go ahead and share. If someone does not disagree, don't decide you were "skinned alive", or that you touched the "holy grail".
Popular instructional training programs are not a consipracy. Usually when something is popular, it is because folks gain value from it.
If you don't gain value from what's popular, and have other ideas, go for it.
Beaker, I'm in Central IL. If you want to talk live, feel free to call me in the evening.
217-454-0361. I will share my own experience and ideas. I have never trained a titled field trial dog. I have trained several dogs to be somewhat respectable and had learned a lot. I will share what I can.
That's why RTF is here...for us to share ideas and share value.
Chris I am a newbie but very well stated !!!!
WE should all know the definitionof opinion and the olfactory traits it brings
The reason for starting with "Here" has several aspects. I take advantage of our flexible modern e-collars and CC with pups as young as 4 months using very low levels of stimulus. You can run much more meaningful marks with a pup that isn't getting bogged down with distractions on the way home. Another reason is the simplest of commands; he always knows where you are, so it's easy to comply.
All other standard obedience commands are conditioned as they are formalized over the course of formal Basics. It's not a matter of conflict between programs, so much as my philosophy governing CC is just different. You'll see that when you read the book, and/or watch the videos.
I have started many puppies and have had great success with the Hillmann Puppy video. Regarding the sit - nick concern: Mr. Hillmann is "reinforcing" a command (sit) before the puppy makes a mistake. The reinforcement is the "nick". The only way the pup will learn is repeat - repeat - repeat.
Hope this helps.
One quick pointed question. Initially, does Lardy use continuous pressure that the dog turns off or does he start with nicks?
Also, please pm if you’d rather not post. I have gotten some good info there too.
Thanks to all.
According to his videos, he has it on continuous but only does a half second to one second nick. If I remembered correctly.