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    But why stop her on the land bridge? If she's...

    But why stop her on the land bridge? If she's showing she understands stay in water all the way to the land bridge, why wouldn't you let her roll?
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    Good water blind to that point? Good land blind?...

    Good water blind to that point?
    Good land blind?
    Good marks on land and water?

    If yes to all, I'd kick myself in the A$$ for giving 1) stopping the dog when he'd been thinking water the whole...
  3. Throw some master po in there Benny to balance my...

    Throw some master po in there Benny to balance my "drills" and dog training suggestions.

    Just kidding. Have a good evening! ;)
  4. Are you sure you "forced to pile"? You stated...

    Are you sure you "forced to pile"? You stated that you didn't force as much from the side because you were afraid of flaring. Then said the dog almost thrives on pressure and has lots of desire....
  5. When you run a cold blind do you run a single...

    When you run a cold blind do you run a single blind or a 3-peat, repeating the same concept with 3 individual blinds? By always running 3-peats (or. 4-peats or 5-peats), the dog has an opportunity...
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nj5y3z7THH4 I...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nj5y3z7THH4

    I think there are 5 parts.
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    I think you're way out there, but if someone...

    I think you're way out there, but if someone really wanted to learn what you're talking about, I think you should go into deeper explanation about how to do what you do. Many people that come here...
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    With all due respect Benny, do you just follow...

    With all due respect Benny, do you just follow the pup around and observe it in its natural environment until you can read it?

    We take them away from their pack and so must become the pack leader...
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    You are casting the dog to another known...

    You are casting the dog to another known location. If you do blinds drills & pattern blinds with diversions, you get ample opportunities to practice handling - getting the dog to change direction....
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    Ha, ha, never assume because a man has no eyes he...

    Ha, ha, never assume because a man has no eyes he cannot see. Close your eyes. What do you hear?
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    None dispute that as far as I know. But no one...

    None dispute that as far as I know. But no one understands the advice you give because you speak in riddles. You're at too high a level for us mortals.

    BJ: Close your eyes. What do you hear?...
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    No question BJ is at a much higher level!

    No question BJ is at a much higher level!
  13. Or, just evaluate the risk that the starting...

    Or, just evaluate the risk that the starting number as posted on Entry Express or by the club is incorrect. Because that risk is near zero, don't perform any audit procedures at all and just focus on...
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    It is typically not necessary to suspend marking...

    It is typically not necessary to suspend marking during force fetch and Lardy advocates that you continue to do marks throughout training. The dogs attitude is everything. Throwing marks helps keep...
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    It's a trainers problem. I'm not big on speaking...

    It's a trainers problem. I'm not big on speaking in riddles like BJ is, but I'll tell you that if the pup was one way before you force fetched and is now another way, whether better or worse, it's...
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    What would you do if the dog doesn't always turn...

    What would you do if the dog doesn't always turn the same way?

    What if you wanted to address the problem when it occurred in the field rather than packing everything up and looking for a baseball...
  17. Have you done these steps? Force to pile Sit to...

    Have you done these steps?
    Force to pile
    Sit to pile
    Double T
    Swim-by
    Pattern blinds
    Blind drills
    Pattern blinds with diversions
    Elemetary cold blinds - land
    Taught channel blinds
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    Look into Dennis Voigt's Retrievers ONLINE. Great...

    Look into Dennis Voigt's Retrievers ONLINE. Great source of info in training retrievers and more. Particularly like his 3x3 approach to blinds.
    Walkaround, memory, & cold blinds in sets of 3.
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    Pile work yes, an occasional whistle-nick...

    Pile work yes, an occasional whistle-nick absolutely no. As you have discovered.

    Occasional is a problem as to me it means the whistle-nicks are random and not tied to what the dog has done.
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    I didn't know what a field trial was when I...

    I didn't know what a field trial was when I bought my dogs. Mary Howley told me about Lardy, I bought the program and went to a basics/transition workshop with a 9 month old pup. Met Jerry Day there...
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    My view is run whatever you want, but train for...

    My view is run whatever you want, but train for All-Age trials from day one. This way you don't hold the dog or yourself back regardless of which way you decide to go.
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    Although many, including myself, do just that. It...

    Although many, including myself, do just that. It is very, very difficult to be successful in field trials if you start a dog off with typical hunt test training and try to move to field trials. So...
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    I use Hillmann's puppy program which starts pups...

    I use Hillmann's puppy program which starts pups on simple stand alones at 3 or 4 months of age. Dog must be steady.

    By the time they are 6 months old we are doing send backs to a plastic crate...
  24. The con would be missing out on running the...

    The con would be missing out on running the derby. Very small window there. You have the rest of the dog's life to run the MN.
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    This is a perfect hypothetical example of how...

    This is a perfect hypothetical example of how never to set up a blind. A dog, on line, is out of site for 1/3 or more of the blind, with a critical factor, angling a cut path, while the dog is out of...
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