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    I can live with your opinion. How is...

    I can live with your opinion.



    How is explaining what I feel in my hand, and what I see on a lion country supply webpage...which by the way exactly matches the description on the Tri-tronics...
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    http://www.lcsupply.com/Tritronics-Pro-500-G3-EXP-...

    http://www.lcsupply.com/Tritronics-Pro-500-G3-EXP-Collar/productinfo/PRO500/

    Read the description...18 levels of momentary, 18 levels of continuous. How do you proceed up the scale if the scale...
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    As far as I know his first was in 2003. Perhaps...

    As far as I know his first was in 2003. Perhaps I am wrong on this and shouldn't have mentioned it. I had a typo above and correct edited it.

    I'm sure Evan will chime back in and let us know how...
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    Ken, It's been 1 1/2 to 2 years since I used...

    Ken,
    It's been 1 1/2 to 2 years since I used the collar on a dog, and it's been at least that long or longer since I tested mine on my hand. To be fair it's possible that my memory fails me as to...
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    Ken, My deceased dogs working level was on...

    Ken,
    My deceased dogs working level was on level two, low. This gave me two levels of increase in hottness if I needed it. I understand setting the collar at the dogs working level and leaving it...
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    From post #2 and I agreed the scale was as listed...

    From post #2 and I agreed the scale was as listed above.


    mjh is saying that a 2 high is hotter than a 3 low. I disagreed.

    It may show that on a meter, but this is not how I approach using...
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    This was a hypothetical situation and Ken's reply...

    This was a hypothetical situation and Ken's reply illustrates my point precisely, as does the quote below. Bare with me a segundo...






    We are being told that Mr. Davis's collar is reading...
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    What do I do then if my dog generally operates on...

    What do I do then if my dog generally operates on a 3H and I get in a situation where the dog may need a bit more "persuasion"? Are you saying I forego the 4L and go to a 4M? Seems to me that...
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    So you're saying that if you're working with a...

    So you're saying that if you're working with a dog that works on a 3L and you need to give a correction of the next higher level, you have to use both hands and move the dial to a 4L, rather than use...
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    Try re-reading what I said a few times and maybe...

    Try re-reading what I said a few times and maybe it'll click for you. Then again...


    No. What I'm telling you is that as a newbie trainer I wanted to KNOW what my dog was feeling before I used...
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    You can't tell this isn't correct by using my...

    You can't tell this isn't correct by using my collar in my own hand. I think (from the pain I experienced) that this is correct. I made it to about 3M nick and about a 2 low constant...well until I...
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    Gun River's Spicy Sammich (sandwich)...call name...

    Gun River's Spicy Sammich (sandwich)...call name "sage"
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    If this pup turns out to be an outstanding dog...

    If this pup turns out to be an outstanding dog and produced quality dogs then you might say that during that era of time outstanding dogs were born. I also love the smell of fresh sage. Sort of...
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    Prayers on the way!

    Prayers on the way!
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    Jennifer, these are all good resources. Keep in...

    Jennifer, these are all good resources. Keep in mind though, that as far as I know Robert Milner is the only trainer who's continually training and writing articles using similar methods as relates...
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    If you're the type of person that needs...

    If you're the type of person that needs credentials to look at to believe something someone says, then disregard what I'm about to say because I don't have any credentials.

    IMO, the above quote is...
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    I couldn't agree more Ken. I've been struggling...

    I couldn't agree more Ken. I've been struggling with this a bit myself as of late. After some recent threads and discussions on the topic on different forums, and a few pm's to people...

    ...I...
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    I can relate to much of what you said even though...

    I can relate to much of what you said even though I now use and understand some of the lingo.
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    I agree with what you seen here.

    I agree with what you seen here.
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    You just said...you can't train successfully with...

    You just said...you can't train successfully with compulsion if you can't train successfully without it. What?

    I thought there was no such thing as 100% Positive training?????:rolleyes:

    Are...
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    Many of the comments made in this thread and...

    Many of the comments made in this thread and hundreds more like them are the exact reason I wanted to inquire for myself. I got tired of seeing the same old boring "him vs them" threads and decided...
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    Can't even try and give a decent review without...

    Can't even try and give a decent review without people twisting your words. :confused: If you can't see where I said I'm a smartwork user, AND SUPPORTER, then you really should consider glasses. The...
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    It could be that the comment is in the...

    It could be that the comment is in the advertising, but I don't recall. Lot's of products are advertised wrong in my opinion, but I can't do anything about that...takes money and lawyers. Sure, to us...
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    If it bothers you that bad, and you feel you...

    If it bothers you that bad, and you feel you can't learn anyting you most likely won't. Why bother posting? Ignore it and move on. I do it all the time. I don't respond to every thread or topic. It's...
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    You better re-read what I wrote. Can, and I think...

    You better re-read what I wrote. Can, and I think it can are totally different statements. One happens, and the other is a possibility.
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