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    I will add something else, he may never be the...

    I will add something else, he may never be the speed demon you want. So, there is no reason to hound him for it. Sometimes you just have to live with it and as long as he understands what he is...
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    SECTION 10. A Derby Stake at a Retriever trial...

    SECTION 10. A Derby Stake at a Retriever trial
    shall be for dogs which have not reached their second
    birthday on the first day of the trial at which they are
    being run. For example, a dog whelped...
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    50 is way to COLD.....

    50 is way to COLD.....
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    Yes, and that is like expecting it to snow on...

    Yes, and that is like expecting it to snow on Christmas every time. Derbies get what is left over 99% of the time. Even good judges have a hard time finding 8 good birds on the grounds they are...
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    All these comments are fine and dandy but the...

    All these comments are fine and dandy but the reality is the Derby gives you basically one criteria to judge dogs.. and that is marking. Thats like saying you are going to cut all NBA players who...
  6. Difference is that Ortho will sign a guaranteed...

    Difference is that Ortho will sign a guaranteed contract for 600k, the Vet, be lucky if he gets 50K. Don't let that Ortho, fool ya....
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    Jamarcus Russell. What's he doing these days.

    Jamarcus Russell. What's he doing these days.
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    Good Grief is right. You consistently get on...

    Good Grief is right. You consistently get on here and condemn training approaches that do not follow your flow chart. Almost everything with dog training is dated. The TT has been around for at...
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    OUTDATED!!!!! I'm pretty sure every basics...

    OUTDATED!!!!! I'm pretty sure every basics trainer that comes out of Blackwater is very familiar with the drill, so I guess Bill Eckett's trips to the National with dogs that were brought up this...
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    There is no reason to debate which is more...

    There is no reason to debate which is more important or used more oftern. I did not like the statement, that go/stop/come problems end at basics. I trained enough and have seen enough to know that...
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    I would have to agree with John on this one. I...

    I would have to agree with John on this one. I have seen FC AFC go through a spell of popping, not sitting on the whistle. It is just not that simple..
  12. If you are trying to play the Field Trial Game...

    If you are trying to play the Field Trial Game these are 2 of the best in Louisiana. Considering you are in the NW corner of Louisiana, I would also recommend Mark Madore, he should be just across...
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    Pretty sure it was 4.

    Pretty sure it was 4.
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    I was just asking and that is a good answer. Not...

    I was just asking and that is a good answer. Not antagonizing just making sure I had not missed something.
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    So what else should be learned in the T or TT for...

    So what else should be learned in the T or TT for that matter.
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    You basically just summed up what Kip and I were...

    You basically just summed up what Kip and I were saying.
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    Now that is funny.. Bout the same time as.......

    Now that is funny.. Bout the same time as.......
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    So if you start the TT like everybody says to...

    So if you start the TT like everybody says to start it with just the single T, do you not get the below problems with it. I have never said that TT was not invaluable. I have just always asked what...
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    The point that I have tried to make is that you...

    The point that I have tried to make is that you can accomplish that same amout of thoroughness with the single T. I just don't understand why do what you advised acemedic to do. You are basically...
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    Howard, just a question, how do you know 17-20 is...

    Howard, just a question, how do you know 17-20 is enough. Why not more. It is not about being perfect. It is about teaching tools that will help you later deal with problems that arise in the...
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    I'm not going to go back a re-read every word but...

    I'm not going to go back a re-read every word but I would dis agree. If I remember correctly I asked a simple question. "What single aspect in training is gained in the D TT, that can not be taught...
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    I agree with Kip and your first statement...

    I agree with Kip and your first statement basically sums it up. We are not teaching handling. You are teaching go, stop, cast. No reason to get bogged down in boredom. Once you feel the dog has...
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    So your telling me that if I only do a Single T...

    So your telling me that if I only do a Single T and you do the D TT that at 16 months, 2 or 5 some one is going to be able to tell which one did which. Kind of like you point on which came first sit...
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    That's the problem I have. NO one has offered any...

    That's the problem I have. NO one has offered any single new aspect that the D TT offers over the single T. All of the aspect you mentioned below if/will/should show up in the single T due to...
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    That is not a very good answer to my question. ...

    That is not a very good answer to my question. Basically 6 paragraphs on suction. I can get suction on a single T by lining a side pile, stopping and giving a angle cast to the back pile. At this...
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