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    Dogs only live a small number of years. Be...

    Dogs only live a small number of years. Be decisive.

    Dogs should not be kept on the truck. Sleep on a truck is one thing, kept in the truck except when working is out of the question.

    Works...
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    Find a new trainer.

    Find a new trainer.
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    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=...

    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=481520&gclid=CKr21IHp7coCFdcTgQodgvMMQw&is=REG&ap=y&m=Y&Q=&A=details

    Try these
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    I like this idea. Even a bit angle in as you...

    I like this idea. Even a bit angle in as you would for a puppy just starting out so they get to the bird first.
  5. No doubt, but include a marking test in there...

    No doubt, but include a marking test in there somewhere.
  6. Every time I go to the line I work on the "busy...

    Every time I go to the line I work on the "busy action at the line". I don't routinely drill on it. My belief is that, if you establish and maintain a standard of behavior, you won't need to set up...
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  8. Ha! I don't train in that, just try to deal with...

    Ha! I don't train in that, just try to deal with it when it happens.
  9. I don't do many drills, but I do set up my marks...

    I don't do many drills, but I do set up my marks to work on a particular skill.

    There are a couple of concepts that you will need to be able to do:
    Go long after picking up two shorter birds....
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    26572 2657326573 6 hole deerskin

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    Being able to run tight guns is a mandatory skill...

    Being able to run tight guns is a mandatory skill in a field trial. Even run blinds to the feet of a gunner. If you make the gun a bad place to be, you'll have no success in trials.

    Edit: I agree...
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    Lardy has said, "dogs cheat water, they negotiate...

    Lardy has said, "dogs cheat water, they negotiate cover". I agree with you both. And with cover, it looks a lot different at 2 feet from the ground and 10 feet away than it does from 6 feet off the...
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    Good grief Jeff, the thread isn't about judging...

    Good grief Jeff, the thread isn't about judging dogs, it's about judging lines on a marked retrieve. I evaluate each element individually with marking of primary importance. Can the dog mark? Yes =...
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    There was no hunt. Good mark.

    There was no hunt. Good mark.
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    Then you don't disagree, you agree. Marking is #1...

    Then you don't disagree, you agree. Marking is #1 natural ability and courage is number 5 in the book. I've been telling you each time you asked, wouldn't you mark a dog dien for cheating, and my...
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    The thread isn't about judging dog work, it's...

    The thread isn't about judging dog work, it's about judging lines to marks. At least in my mind....

    Read the supplement regarding evaluation of dog work...

    "(5) Courage, too, is a trait which...
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    Good grief, NOT IN MARKING ABILITY.

    Good grief, NOT IN MARKING ABILITY.
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    Of course it does, but does it mean the dog can't...

    Of course it does, but does it mean the dog can't mark or doesn't remember the mark? I argue no.

    And my interpretation of disturbing too much ground is by hunting not just running a banana line...
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    And here in lies the problem imo. We all train to...

    And here in lies the problem imo. We all train to fight factors and get straight to the bird. In fact Lardy has said that his business card should read "dog line straightener". We teach the dog's to...
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    Put it out here for discussion then. The two...

    Put it out here for discussion then.

    The two excerpts I quoted support my position on the matter.
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    No I wouldn't penalize them for marking. ...

    No I wouldn't penalize them for marking.



    Because the rule book says I should not. And I didn't say "general area".

    “Accurate marking is of primary importance. A dog which marks the ‘fall’...
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    I don't judge lines and I too have judged with a...

    I don't judge lines and I too have judged with a very experienced (National) judge who did not put a mark in the page until the dog started to hunt.


    No, IMO you should not assume the dog winded...
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    Is this the same dog?

    Is this the same dog?
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    That's a Very bad idea.

    That's a Very bad idea.
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    I guess I'm not following what you are doing. If...

    I guess I'm not following what you are doing. If a dog clams up with ear pinch, I don't increase the pinch, I continue to work on putting the bumper in the dog's mouth, and releasing the pinch, then...
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