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    the ones trying to help are the ones that send me...

    the ones trying to help are the ones that send me a pm. read my final thoughts again and again the controversy is among yourselves im just a pawn
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    chris ,again back up and read what you wrote , i...

    chris ,again back up and read what you wrote , i have recieved many pm,s asking me to stay. i thought it would be best to give my final thoughts! you said i was welcome, make up your mind, if i was...
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    final thoughts, there seems to be controversey...

    final thoughts, there seems to be controversey among yourselves on what is right and what is wrong. i was more than happy to be a pawn in this game of check mate on mr. milners behalf. if you learn...
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    your right chris i do have my mind made up it is...

    your right chris i do have my mind made up it is to not force fetch my dog,anyone that reads this can clearly see this!there was alot of advice on why i should but i stand my ground with mr. milner...
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    no one cried wolf here ,my question was simple ,...

    no one cried wolf here ,my question was simple , why force fetch my dog you need to go back to page one and put you glasses on ive always been with mr milner and his friends !got it.
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    just the opposite im with mr. milner and his...

    just the opposite im with mr. milner and his friends on this one
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    ive sat back for 2 days and listened to...

    ive sat back for 2 days and listened to everything and i think its time for me to chime in.i feel if you are going to train your dog to go to the big dance and win then yes force fetch is a must. but...
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    thank you for the nice comment,as a beginner its...

    thank you for the nice comment,as a beginner its people like you that help me strive forward. and eventually make the right choice on tuff issues
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    sounds like i have a decission to make,to force...

    sounds like i have a decission to make,to force fetch or not.as a beginner these are tuff concepts to grasp not truely understanding the benefits for both me and my dog.of all the people you seem to...
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    thanks for your input on this subject

    thanks for your input on this subject
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    you have been of great help on this subject,i...

    you have been of great help on this subject,i will have to give this some seriuos thought,there seems to be alot more to this than i 1st assumed. people like you that are willing to help people like...
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    wow! you have given me alot of insite on ff....

    wow! you have given me alot of insite on ff. really something to think about! thank you for your time in showing me the light to this concept of ff. i believe im am starting to understand the...
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    kyle b you get an a+ from me that was what i was...

    kyle b you get an a+ from me that was what i was looking for, a must read for everyone thank you so much!
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    explain that last sentence kool aid boy

    explain that last sentence kool aid boy
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    give me a reason why i should that was the...

    give me a reason why i should that was the origanal question
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    why should i ?

    why should i ?
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    there is no pressurewhen i do what i love,when...

    there is no pressurewhen i do what i love,when you make me do something you are creating pressure
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    dog was taught with a broom stick to hold,took 1...

    dog was taught with a broom stick to hold,took 1 week. when he did it right he got a treat,positive reinforcement. in his mind ,this is great i do what you say and i get a treat. dog loves to...
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    when he does drop during drills i commad hold...

    when he does drop during drills i commad hold (nick) hold, is this the same thing
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    thoughts on force fetch

    im new to this site, and interested in running my dog in hunt tests.please go easy on me when i ask the question( why do we have to ff our dogs?). am i missing the boat on this issue? my dog is 14...
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    chat room is first place i visited, its in upper...

    chat room is first place i visited, its in upper left corner of home page called chat go and talk someones ear off
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    thanks everyone here is so helpful

    thanks everyone here is so helpful
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    cant thank everybody enough for your help. sent...

    cant thank everybody enough for your help. sent chris a pm and he gave me some advice on how to get started thanks again
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    got my ten early today thanks for thinking of me...

    got my ten early today thanks for thinking of me though
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    why would i down goose he siys so good

    why would i down goose he siys so good
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