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    I have Total Retriever Marking, and an old...

    I have Total Retriever Marking, and an old version of Total Retriever Training plus Lardy's article collections. Does the Van Engan video go into more specifics on how to train a puppy than either of...
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    Hillman -vs- Van Engan video

    I'm considering buying a new puppy training video, and I was wondering which training system would best prepared the pup for higher level training. What are the differences between the two programs? ...
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    C&S Custom calls are great. My hunting parnter...

    C&S Custom calls are great. My hunting parnter has RNT daisy cutter, a hobo & other high end calls. He wants me to trade with him any of his 2 calls for my 1 C&S Preacher.
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    A shackled bird is one that has its wings & legs...

    A shackled bird is one that has its wings & legs tied so that it can walk & flap but not run or fly.
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    Thank you Mary & Bill for your input. For me it...

    Thank you Mary & Bill for your input. For me it means a great deal that someone that has developed a very successful training method would take the time to clarify your points. So many of the people...
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    That was the reason for the OP. But grey or what...

    That was the reason for the OP. But grey or what ever color that they percieve orange as, I believe that they can make out a siloete (sp) at shorter distances. If they can see it at shorter distances...
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    While being excited about your new pup is a good...

    While being excited about your new pup is a good thing. Getting in too big of a hurry to hunt over the dog will create more problems, that could be difficult to correct, than bennifits you would...
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    "from 50 yards throw an orange bumper. This...

    "from 50 yards throw an orange bumper. This teaches pup to look for movement in the air. And will help pup follow the movement all the way to the ground after a few times" John Kelder

    " He says...
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    Sorry, I am not tring to take it out of context,...

    Sorry, I am not tring to take it out of context, I am just trying to get a better understanding of why one well repected trainer would "contradict" the other. I did watch the entrie Hillmann DVD...
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    Hillmann (orange) -vs- Lardy (white)?

    So I have a new pup & borrowed the Hillmann DVD & I own Lardy's marking DVD. Lardy says never throw marks for puppies with orange bumpers so that the pup learns to use its eyes first. Hillmann says...
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    Which trainer would you want to learn from?

    I did not want to hi-jack the thread about who you learned to train from, so i thought i would throw this one out there.

    If you could appprentice under anyone (Preferably alive, because I am sure...
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    Scar would not be a problem. My last dog was...

    Scar would not be a problem. My last dog was named Cinder. She never confused her name/release with sit or vise versa. We also had a release word for her food which was free & would tempt her with...
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    put me in. i love that stuff.

    put me in. i love that stuff.
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    Thank you. That one is close.

    Thank you. That one is close.
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    Surgical AI vets?

    I have a BLF that I would like to breed this fall/winter. But due to the fact that I live in a state that has very few HTs & no FTs at all, surgical AI seems to be the best choice for getting a...
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    Frank was kind enough to let me train with him &...

    Frank was kind enough to let me train with him & Mason last week while I was in Oklahoma & that little Prissy can move! Thanks for helping me out during my trip.

    Not sure if Cinder was still a...
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    I totally agree with the statements above, great...

    I totally agree with the statements above, great grounds, fair & challenging judges, wonderful people.

    I would like to especially thank Danny Haas. I traveled to Oklahoma for the Tulsa & Sooner...
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    Being the HT chairman for the first time of an up...

    Being the HT chairman for the first time of an up coming test & how difficult it is getting help, that is funny & sad at the same time.
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    She lives between Checota & Porum. Wagner is...

    She lives between Checota & Porum. Wagner is about as close as anybody I have been able to contact before. I will PM you with my contact info. I will also look at Three Rivers & Tulsa.

    Thanks,...
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    I am starting to research stud dogs. Information...

    I am starting to research stud dogs. Information is always a good thing to have when you want to make a smart choice. I have some questions about Chopper that I figure going to his owner is the best...
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    Eastern Okla. training group

    I am planning on running my dog in the Sooner & Tulsa retriever club HTs the end of May. My mom lives on Lake Eufala. During the week between the 2 tests I was hoping that I could train with a few of...
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    I would be thankful if I could get Mr....

    I would be thankful if I could get Mr. Kashevarof's ph# too.

    Doug
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    2tall, water is the reason that I would consider...

    2tall, water is the reason that I would consider moving myself. Good water is hard to find in NM. Good training partners may be even tougher to find less than a 1-2 hr drive.

    One of my training...
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    That threw Taos way out. As many tourists as...

    That threw Taos way out. As many tourists as residents, & I am not sure about most of the residents. Albuquerque is probably the closest retriever club but a few folks live in Los Alamos. Some So....
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    To akblackdawg & cakaiser, I did not intend to...

    To akblackdawg & cakaiser, I did not intend to sound insulting, that is why I put the sunglasses smiley face after the comment about 18+ hrs of sun. Sorry if I offended.

    Reguardless of how many...
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