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[QUOTE=russell.jason2;1085363]You really think this sport is growing???

I never said the sport was growing. I did say there will always be field trials because there will always be some people...

I disagree that the derby (or the qual) for that matter should be designed with the newbie in mind. Field trials by their very design will never appeal to the masses because most (not all) people...

The disappearing gun.....one of my favorite derby tests.

Greg Heier

There is a fairly active club just outside of Omaha where you should be able to find a training group. http://www.movalleyhuntclub.org/index.php Another one in Lincoln, NE which will probably be...

Good handling vs poor handling is very hard to describe in writing but easy to recognize for anybody who has judged even a few trials and takes an observant eye towards handling when judging. Ted...

I think the posts that say Purina should be ashamed and blundered are off base. As noted, the rules were established BEFORE THE SEASON even started and everyone knows the rules. To suggest that...

Here is a recent example of a situation where I believe judges, somewhat suprisingly, rewarded a quick handle over an out of the area hunt. Last series at an open. Two very difficult marks in the...

[QUOTE=Jim Pickering;384896]"Greg I have a sense that you are pushing the envelop with another FT judging thread so soon........

My pet peeve is judges who take the position that a handle on a...

It seems we have pretty well examined the subject of judging marking especially in the derby. I would like to hear discussion of what may be the most ignored provision of the rulebook as applied to...

Jason,

You wrote,

"I wonder if it was all of the generations of great ancestry that help dog 1 and 2 or if it was the dudes in the white coats. Looks to me like these two dogs broke out of the...

Ted wrote,

"From my perspective, the biggest water cheats I have personally known were often the dogs with the greatest desire to retrieve - they simply didn't want to be bothered with the extra...

I guess I will direct this at Ted,

Given the fact that dog #1 did not get in the water on the shorter bird in the scenario, has not the dog at some level indicated a "reluctance to enter.......

I would call all three back and could not yet place the dogs.

I would also look at sytle which is the second criteria you are specifically directed to judge in a derby (marking ability and style...

Jim,

Perhaps you might try dealing with the issue indirectly. If the dog has been conditioned to the collar, try taking the dog back into a controlled environment like your back yard and...

Jim,

I here what you are saying as far as some "marking" tests being more of a test of training than a test of marking. The best example I can think of is the "Indented Triple" with a short bird...