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  2. In a normal situation doesn't the club get the...

    In a normal situation doesn't the club get the $25 fee?

    Or will there be a EE $25 fee and a Club $25 fee?

    Or does the EE $25 fee only apply on scratches before a test/trial closes?
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    How about me? Do you think Andy would put my name...

    How about me? Do you think Andy would put my name on the list?
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    Two of the best explanations of how a Derby...

    Two of the best explanations of how a Derby should go IMO.




    In Derby Stakes, the severity of the tests should be progressive, less demanding to more difficult.
    And, judges should be well...
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    Congrats Rita.

    Congrats Rita.
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    Hi Ed, What did the litter to Don Strait's...

    Hi Ed,

    What did the litter to Don Strait's bitch produce? What I mean, was it a big litter, all black, who got the puppies, did you or Judy keep one. Honcho was an all time favorite of mine....
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    I would venture to guess this litter was the best...

    I would venture to guess this litter was the best based on the results
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    Todd, I will be sure you get one at MFTA!!!

    Todd, I will be sure you get one at MFTA!!!
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    Ted, it looks to me that Yellow M1 is thrown at...

    Ted, it looks to me that Yellow M1 is thrown at the water from the top of the hill. Are you implying to throw Yellow M1 at the water thus toward the line?
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    Yes indeed John, yes indeed. More times than not...

    Yes indeed John, yes indeed. More times than not the Open Judges find a way to get their revenge. LOL
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    Jerry, I had milk in my cereal this morning so...

    Jerry, I had milk in my cereal this morning so it's all good.

    Keep one thing in mind, what you think is a god test can sometimes lead to having your backside handed to you. Conversely, there will...
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    I did not notice that Ted. I thought there was...

    I did not notice that Ted. I thought there was some meaningful banter back and forth which is healthy for the discussion. I believe it does not hurt to get useful information from both sides of the...
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    This is fun Ted. Can we have a new picture to...

    This is fun Ted. Can we have a new picture to critique? I think we are all getting something from this.
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    These are nice Paul. I also like the fact that...

    These are nice Paul. I also like the fact that you would discuss your thoughts with your co judge and not be one of those "these are the marks I like so we will go with them" type of judges. Believe...
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    Sorry but I can't help you with the electronics. ...

    Sorry but I can't help you with the electronics. Keep an eye out on the classifieds I guess
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    McMaster-Carr # 5234K43 7/16 od 3/16 id GOOD...

    McMaster-Carr # 5234K43 7/16 od 3/16 id

    GOOD LUCK
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    Nice work, a good set of marks here.

    Nice work, a good set of marks here.
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    Dead birds thrown into the water as a memory bird...

    Dead birds thrown into the water as a memory bird can be surprisingly effective at times. Don't drop that line of thinking from your arsenal. Also, birds thrown at or near the shore line with a hill...
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    Blue M1 is a very good example of something we...

    Blue M1 is a very good example of something we would NOT like to see in a Derby stake. At this young age we are still pounding the "get in the water" mantra (what a nice word, Mantra) into our dogs....
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    Some have been extremely fortunate as to who they...

    Some have been extremely fortunate as to who they have had the pleasure to judge with over time. Every time one judges one should try to take away something he/she can use at a later date or...
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    Come on now Ted, I was just making a reference to...

    Come on now Ted, I was just making a reference to what I don't like in a Derby. No rule changes, I was just hoping to see less cheat on the marks. Using the second picture Bon provided gives better...
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    I like Bons 2nd picture better for that reason...

    I like Bons 2nd picture better for that reason Todd.
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    While judging one of my very first Derby stakes,...

    While judging one of my very first Derby stakes, in the 3rd series I had planned on cutting a corner of water. The person (RVB) who was my co-judge, thankfully, and who has been in this game longer...
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    Please don't set up cheaty marks and remember...

    Please don't set up cheaty marks and remember that a dog that runs around the water is not creating separation.
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    Precisely why I asked the question.

    Precisely why I asked the question.
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