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    THIS^^. Enjoyed that post Tony. Why set up...

    THIS^^.
    Enjoyed that post Tony.

    Why set up and attempt to "idiot proof" handling, ... it's moot, and defeating the purpose.
    You take the dog to the pile, identify it and force him to it.
    ...
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    Have NEVER had to force a dog to do a danged...

    Have NEVER had to force a dog to do a danged thing. Thing is- is that the "natural retriever" doesn't possess the skill set to do un-natural tasks. Really 'Puff,.. it's more about your goals and...
  3. Hey that's great stuff there Wayne. Tell you...

    Hey that's great stuff there Wayne.

    Tell you what I really, (really) like the most about your clip-
    The dust cloud that's being kicked up on a return.
    Love it.
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    Hey Hambone- Haven't read any other posts since...

    Hey Hambone-
    Haven't read any other posts since you've posted.
    What the pro told you is spot on. You see....things go what you consider "great" as long as the dog doesn't understand pressure!
    In...
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    Thanks Mitty. Yeah, I'm in Judys' camp with...

    Thanks Mitty.
    Yeah, I'm in Judys' camp with that. Like to keep (even a seasoned retriever) acclimated to falling water temps as it changes during the fall into winter- (Yes, even though FF'd ).
    ...
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    Tried to find that - Got a link?

    Tried to find that -
    Got a link?
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    Keep retrieving and your Obedience separate...

    Keep retrieving and your Obedience separate venues for now and bring 'em together later. When you're teaching it's better to have very few distractions- and as Kwicklabs mentioned- make yourself his...
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    Nuthin' in the world wrong with being financially...

    Nuthin' in the world wrong with being financially challenged. Regardless of that-
    Don't let finances determine your goals, and whatever you do don't fall into a rut of trying to train with sole use...
  9. More info would be helpful. Such as just how...

    More info would be helpful.
    Such as just how successful and confident pup has been in previous training on marks in various different cover etc., before the returning to old fall stuff began..And...
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    I see 'ole Kwicklabs got it down to a science - ...

    I see 'ole Kwicklabs got it down to a science -

    Pinch an ear then jump in the pool..:cool:
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    Yep, it really sounds like it's going "too...

    Yep, it really sounds like it's going "too easy".

    Am in everyones' camp thats' posted so far. Totally enjoyed what Todd C. mentioned about a dog who's previously already eager to retrieve- by...
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    Tony- There are hundreds, no,.. thousands of...

    Tony-
    There are hundreds, no,.. thousands of dawgs in this world that have not been FF'd and have eagerly picked up several thousand birds in thier retrieving life.
    That said-
    Pressure...
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    God bless John, his family and everyone who was...

    God bless John, his family and everyone who was close to him. He was very helpful to me and know he will be missed here.
    Sincerely,
    B.J.
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    WoW Breck that was incredible :cool: And since...

    WoW Breck that was incredible :cool:
    And since there's absolutely nuthin' now that could possibly be added in the "Do" dept., would like to offer up a "Don't".

    When you get to your cold blinds, ...
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    Be curious as to whether or not this happens on...

    Be curious as to whether or not this happens on marks or birds he doesn't see fall?



    If your dog is as birdy as you believe he is, then consider what these good folks have suggested- get some...
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    Guess what I'm asking is - that if it's such an...

    Guess what I'm asking is - that if it's such an isolated incident when the dog gets vocal, why mess with it. Would certainly agree that vocalization in one area could certainly breed itself in...
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    Well there's one thing that you should be sure...

    Well there's one thing that you should be sure about Morph', and that is- that your dog doesn't completely understand pressure from an ear pinch- at least from you it doesn't.
    And that should narrow...
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    Not Wayne, but would be real curious to know what...

    Not Wayne, but would be real curious to know what you'd suggest as a correction or the re-enforcement of...what?

    Would it be a good idea to re-call a dog off a live bird early on in a chase that...
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    Would be silly to give you a definate answer, can...

    Would be silly to give you a definate answer, can only pass on my own experiences- had one too that did the same thing.
    The more the cripple tried to escape, the more vocalization, (only in water)....
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    I worried myself to death about losing the...

    I worried myself to death about losing the standard thru hunting, but came to realize as you've pointed out John, that if maintained otherwise it won't upset the apple cart.

    (But still have...
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    Jim- sounds like you've got yourself a couple...

    Jim- sounds like you've got yourself a couple nice pups!
    I'd agree ole Thor was more than likely water forced, and no need to bet on the latter! Easy to establish how Thor "feels" about retrieving,...
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    Right Pete :cool: Sometimes the dog might have...

    Right Pete :cool:

    Sometimes the dog might have to enter through ice on shore, swim, exit out and re-enter...and if he has a problem with it, could wind up a long day, (or a short one).
    Always do...
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    Respectfully- Would definately agree with mj345...

    Respectfully-
    Would definately agree with mj345 and HNTFSH on using collar pressure on a young dog in cold water.

    Take a look back at Nicks' Chessie pics. I'm a poor man, but would bet my next...
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    Your reasoning eludes me 'Doc ;) Sounds like...

    Your reasoning eludes me 'Doc ;) Sounds like you're alluding to the same 'ole, same ole' conundrum that "because it's a huntin' dog" ALL owners hunt the same way" , and most " huntin' dawg" owners...
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    Well, you're welcome Robt. (I think). ...

    Well, you're welcome Robt. (I think).
    Apparently the "bridge" self imploded itself long ago before you got your hands on the dog, or was never built, (unlike the one over the river Kwai ;-) ), and...
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