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Howard, to be fair to you I will admit I deleted my last post just prior to your post. I deleted cause I don't want to argue about this. I don't pretend to know it all I merely pointed out an...

Oh I completely understand. Minor details. Sorry, I'm done. The parfume is burning my eyes

So it was so cost prohibitive that you could not include even a paragraph to mention introducing the "fetch" command but a whole chapter on FF itself. Then a DVD on FF. Surely you had a segment in...

So you have only made reference to TEACHING fetch in your training material 2 years ago?

I have smartwork volume 1 2nd edition purchased 8 years ago. No mention of FETCH in Chapter 3 starter program for puppies. No where until FF then only after the pinch. When did your puppy program...

Darrin, your approach is awesome and I would have no issue with that procedure. The fact that you TEACH fetch before applying the pressure is the key. Evans program and many other traditional FF...

Well to be honest Evan up until I read your last several posts I had an open mind to FF. Now that I read the ones I quoted in previous post and this response I feel comfortable in saying that you can...

This ones a GEM. I got to add this. actually this is an entirely new thread...............................

I apologize in advance for bringing in another "topic" but this example leaves me so very confused especially since it comes from a professional that advocates FF.

So it's fair to pinch the ear...

Well I couldn't care less about gay people or what they do....................however I DON'T wanna see it on video.

Just sayin. :p

So is it fair to say that all those that say it's wrong to try and get a better price on a pup always pay sticker price on vehicles and never wait till something goes on sale to buy it?

Everything...

What's so rich about all this is the same people, not including everyone, that are piling on are the same people that are breeding to "better the breed" with dogs that, lets say, don't have the...

Dude, I would buy a doh from you if you bred to a decent male, could show the dam had good retrieving desire and had health clearances. There is a market for $500 dogs and I'm in it. don't want to...

Julie, You made valid points he should consider. I was just pointing out the other side that rarely gets represented in these threads.

And just another note to the OP. Plenty of very fine dogs...

Anytime someone without a FC dog wants to breed these answers come out. I won't say that these stories of people loosing money on a litter are false. i am sure it happens. You never see the people...

so you increased the amount of food and then see problems. BINGO!

Remember how much junk food you could eat and not gain a pound when you were 16? Remember when you realized you couldn't eat like...

check the rules first as i do not believe you are supposed to post private correspondance. especially if it's bad.

Overfeeding. how many cup do you feed? also go to regular size kibble vs the Large breed kibble I'm betting your feeding.

He has a point. A very good point. when was the last time you saw a field bred lab with a double coat? a TRUE double coat? The show folk are not innocent either. both groups, field and show, have...

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well then i say we give all them silver breeding lovely folk lollipop's and ice cream.

REPEAT ... They are not falsifying the registration. re read Copterdocs post #16. The AKC said to register them as chocolate.

Sharon, I don't think they are trying to get their "OWN" color, they...

I understand your view but there is no difference. The breeders are saying they are purebred Labs and the AKC and LRC are allowing them to be registered as such. Therefore the AKC and LRC are...

AKC is allowing them to be papered as chocolate. The governing bodies have accepted them as purebred labrador retrievers. If you have a problem with "silver" labs your problem is with the AKC and...

very sorry. It's never easy no matter the circumstances.

let the pain pass then make a rational decision on how to proceed

Maybe a poor word choice that was overanalyzed. Was not important enough to spend valuable training time on.