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    I think a HRCH, MH, QAA dog is a VERY special...

    I think a HRCH, MH, QAA dog is a VERY special animal!!

    And that 12 yr old dog that we have spent many seasons with in the field, and had a Junior title that we worked pretty hard to get,but has...
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    Some venues, the Honor is about steadiness! or...

    Some venues, the Honor is about steadiness! or your sit standard! That's it!

    Other venues, the Honor dog (that IS what they call them) is more involved in the test.

    Ya run with what works...
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    Exactly how my real hunt test scenario described...

    Exactly how my real hunt test scenario described it! Post #73
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    Thomas i don't understand your question.

    Thomas
    i don't understand your question.
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    Ok! I'll give you that, but however you name the...

    Ok! I'll give you that, but however you name the dog, both dogs had to perform the act of Honoring, and be up , attentive, while honoring another dogs work, and the retrieve when sent! I personally...
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    First of all, you have to have feelings to feel...

    First of all, you have to have feelings to feel pain!
    and healthy means physical AND Mental, so in your case peeps is gonna wait a while!

    crazy knows crazy!
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    Think about the working dog though! He comes out...

    Think about the working dog though!
    He comes out ,goes to the line, his handler starts the test by calling, three birds get tossed, he watches them all,but when he is thinking he is gonna goget that...
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    Because,,, after he has picked up the working...

    Because,,, after he has picked up the working dogs Go bird,, he has to come back, deliver to hand,, sit down,, and Honor the working dogs Double before he is excused!
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    But the thread title was Honor at a Hunt test!...

    But the thread title was Honor at a Hunt test! :):)

    I said earlier that i understood the OP was talking about AKC,,, But there are different venues that I am now truly convinced are a good thing,...
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    YES! its a Mark! he has standards he has to meet...

    YES! its a Mark! he has standards he has to meet that shows he marked the bird. (go directly to the AOF and establish a hunt) In every level except STARTED he is required to deliver to hand!

    So,,...
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    You are incorrect! Per the RULES one is called...

    You are incorrect!
    Per the RULES one is called an Honor dog, and one is called the working dog!

    The WORKING dog has to run a blind.

    But they are both required to Honor! That Honor doesnt...
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    And I do understand that the OP was about an AKC...

    And I do understand that the OP was about an AKC test,...

    The world doesnt revolve around that AKC rule book!

    What do you expect of YOUR honor dog, when you hunt?
    Are all these tests not Hunt...
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    Not ALLLLLL rules say that!!! The discussion was...

    Not ALLLLLL rules say that!!! The discussion was about the Honor at A hunt test! WHOs HUNT TEST!!!
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    I just bet the guys that want to have their dog...

    I just bet the guys that want to have their dog "down" on the honor,, would act differently when they were hunting with a buddy and his dog. In THAT case, I just bet his dog will be up,or if in a...
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    That question will be answered IF your dog is...

    That question will be answered IF your dog is required to pick up a Mark while honoring..

    Has "Honoring" become just demonstrating a good attentive "SIT", or "Down" ?

    Like I asked earlier What...
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    Again,,posting rules from "THE "rule book.. ...

    Again,,posting rules from "THE "rule book.. (whos rule book?)

    In post 87 and 88, the dog better be up, and ready to work! The rules in that scenario will require to pick up a Mark while...
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    :):) I remember the first time I ran that...

    :):)

    I remember the first time I ran that test! My Creepy renegade named Bailey! It was fun to watch the dogs, when they had to run that blind,how they were convinced there was still a bird down...
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    It is also funny to me that when "THE" rule book...

    It is also funny to me that when "THE" rule book gets quoted its most always the AKC rule book! :):)

    Real Hunt Test:

    Two dogs at the line. 1 working dog, 1 honor dog.
    Triple mark is thrown....
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    NO!!! They are NOT!!! Not in a typical days...

    NO!!! They are NOT!!! Not in a typical days HUNTING!!! Isnt THAT what these HT are sposed to replicate!! :):)
    I understand,,,, Just havin fun on a boring morning! Off to train! :):)
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    if your dog has its best chance of seeing a...

    if your dog has its best chance of seeing a thrown or shot bird lying down,,then why do you have him sitting at the line when he is working? If you as a handler has that choice,why do you choose...
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    This is my opinion also! The honor dog is there...

    This is my opinion also! The honor dog is there for a reason. It's job is to mark falls in case its service is needed. That dog is an important part of a hunt. I bet that dog didnt lay down when it...
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    When you hunt, what is the honor dogs job?

    When you hunt, what is the honor dogs job?
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    I will show my inexperience right now! :) I...

    I will show my inexperience right now! :)
    I would think a shallow angle to a cover change would make it more enticing for the dog to go around it or avoid it all together! If the line is square,...
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    From the picture,it looks as though there is a...

    From the picture,it looks as though there is a gentle slope to the left, right out of the gate, Its very gentle,but it is there,. Over distance, I would think that slope could influence inexperienced...
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