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  1. I just want to say to the OP find a way to get...

    I just want to say to the OP find a way to get out of this agreement. Your dog is your dog. You can have a family dog were everyone owns the dog but to have friends who live somewhere else and cannot...
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    Haha best comment yet!! Life is always better...

    Haha best comment yet!! Life is always better with pups around.
  3. I agree a young pup is at a fragile state in its...

    I agree a young pup is at a fragile state in its training, someone losing their temper or pushing them further than you would and hunting went from a fun adventure to a terrifying experience. I have...
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    Well today I did some various review work with...

    Well today I did some various review work with Teal FF was quick walking fetch he was jumping on the bumper very enthusiastically wagging his tail the whole time I thew a couple fun bumpers then...
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    I'm in Alaska

    I'm in Alaska
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    I don't want a speed demon I just want to see him...

    I don't want a speed demon I just want to see him trying a little more than a fast walk to the pile. As far as how i force fetch its the way a trainer showed me how to do it so I have assumed that is...
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    When I say ear pinch I mean once I say fetch i...

    When I say ear pinch I mean once I say fetch i begin the ear pinch until the dowel is in his mouth and once it is in his mouth i praise. so every second the dowel or whatever he is retrieving is not...
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    Okay tommorrow I will start FF over I'm going to...

    Okay tommorrow I will start FF over I'm going to add an ear pinch give the command fetch while giving him very slight resistance and make him pull against me to get to the dowel over time...
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    This makes total sense. Like I said I am in a...

    This makes total sense. Like I said I am in a training group and I have asked the pro trainer there how to FF a natural retriever and he just told me to follow the sequence of "fetch" ear pinch,...
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    You have thoroughly confused me here. what is it...

    You have thoroughly confused me here. what is it you're getting at? What would be the training sequence, and how would that training session look?
    Is it sit the dog in front of you hold the FF dowel...
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    He will go right for those keys. I can have him...

    He will go right for those keys. I can have him hold coke cans, shovel handles, nalgene bottles, and on multiple occasions when at our cabin gathering firewood i will tell him to fetch a pile of fire...
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    I really like what youre getting at there I will...

    I really like what youre getting at there I will have to try this out!!! I always find if I can boost a dogs confidence then everyone wins. I want to let everyone know how helpfull their info has...
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    Im afraid I don't quite understand, he would...

    Im afraid I don't quite understand, he would retrieve in response to pressure but also without pressure. I guess what you're saying is make him grab the FF dowel because of the pressure rather than...
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    I have done walking FF, simple casting, cc, and...

    I have done walking FF, simple casting, cc, and E-collar fetch. I am going to do a FF refresher aiming for faster responses today. tommorrow I will do E-collar fetch with the bumper in my hand then...
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    I would also like to add he never went through...

    I would also like to add he never went through stick fetch because i heard from many that it was an old outdated training tool replaced by the variable intensity E-collar. I could give that a try if...
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    With FF he was a natural I went through FF as a...

    With FF he was a natural I went through FF as a formality but he always grabbed the FF dowel willingly. I would say "fetch" followed by an ear pinch and immediately he would start going for it....
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    I have not used dead or frozen birds just dokkens...

    I have not used dead or frozen birds just dokkens and hallmark canvas bumpers i started at 5 feet away from the pile and have moved back to about 30 feet and that has been where we have stayed for...
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    Force to Pile Questions

    I Have a 9 month old chocolate lab he is very driven when retrieving marked bumpers but on his pile work he just trots along. He is collar conditioned and with a Tri Tronics exp 200 pro he is on a...
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