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Thanks for your information which helps everyone to clarify and define you particular concern. Respectfully I believe you are still confusing the older machines with the newer versions. The "5000"...

You might want to check and make sure that particular retailer is listed as an authorized dealer for Thunder Equipment products on their website.. Some people are selling without authorization for...

This is a very interesting discussion pertaining to the benefits and personal opinions of using different systems. My thoughts are that whatever you are happy with you should use. What's disturbing...

This is a very interesting discussion pertaining to the benefits and personal opinions of using different systems. My thoughts are that whatever you are happy with you should use. What's disturbing...

Looks like, based on your post, you have never owned any of the Thunder products. Both the Max and ThunderBird you mention were made by an old Canadian company that has been out of business for over...

The new simulators have been used successfully for licensed field trials and shown at Super Retriever Series Events. At a recent field trial when the weather was really bad and they had consistent...

Dont confuse the Thunder with the older products produced by another company. The Thunder products are not a problem..

I assume you are specifically asking the question for the Canadian trainers because there are no restrictions / limitations within the US. My understanding is that the Canadian province certification...

Jim,

The charge is almost indefinite. In fact, using as a shotgun simulator you could charge for minutes without problems. Since the system uses mostly air to fire and it self-ventilates out the...

Thought everyone would be interested in knowing that Thunder Equipment shotgun simulators have been used successfully at 2 AKC Licensed Field Trials. Additionally plans are in the works for more...

Thunder Equipment www.thunderequipment.com has released their latest version of a shotgun simulator / bumper thrower. Light years better than the old systems. It is being used at multiple winter...

For all those interested Thunder Equipment www.thunderequipment.com has released their new shotgun simulator / bumper thrower. Mike Lardy, Danny Farmer, and Dave Rorem are using them during their...

There are some major advantages to the shotgun simulators over a tradational shotgun. First is safety. Many clubs and trainng groups are concerned about the safety of discharging even blanks from a...

You might want to check out Thunder Equipment www.thunderequipment.com. It is competitively priced, extremely easy to use, less expensive to operate, requires no maintenance, and uses Tritronics or...

Thunder Equipment www.thunderequipment.com is coming out with one in the next 3-6 months. They are currently under development. Not only are they a much more durable shotgun simulator they will also...

The MAX 5000's haven't been made in about 6 years. They were a first generation product made by a company called Etch Marc (Canada) which was purchased over a year ago by Thunder Equipment...

HIGH FLYERS HUNTING RETRIEVER CLUB of Pittsburgh is pleased to host an interactive two-day working seminar on July 14th – 15th, 2007 in Grove City, Pa. featuring professional retriever trainer BEN...

The venting for the Etch-Marc launchers was done to facilitate airflow through the venturri necessary to push additional air into the chamber. This was not critical to it's overall functioning but...