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    Somehow I missed the point that Paul was trying...

    Somehow I missed the point that Paul was trying to make earlier (sorry Paul). Thanks for bringing it to light again. Both of your arguments are very sound and caused me even more thinking about...
  2. She's an amazing little dog. Congratulations...

    She's an amazing little dog. Congratulations Bill and Micki. You deserve it.
    Brian
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    I didn't see all the dogs run but a guess would...

    I didn't see all the dogs run but a guess would be 60% did it (sort of) and 1/2 of them did it well. They dropped about half the dogs on that test. It was a fairly strong cross wind coming off the...
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    You make a very solid argument ( based on the...

    You make a very solid argument ( based on the rules) for dropping the dog. I know that in 99.9999% of cases, dogs who pick up poison birds should be dropped for the reasons you and others have...
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    Not sure where you get out of control from the...

    Not sure where you get out of control from the description provided? The handler blew the whistle at a critical time while challenging the test. The dog stopped on top of the bird, sat and picked...
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    Well thought out response. Thank you. I want to...

    Well thought out response. Thank you. I want to respond to some of your points.

    1. It may not be considered a switch because the dog didn't retrieve the PB.....again a judgement call.
    2. The...
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    Its not black and white unless it is in the...

    Its not black and white unless it is in the rules. Many times in this game, things are done because that's the way they've always been done with little regard for the rules or the specifics of this...
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    I think your right...it is a judgement call.

    I think your right...it is a judgement call.
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    I didn't say it was a reason to carry. I was...

    I didn't say it was a reason to carry. I was answering a direct question from JS about what some of the other dogs did, not to justify anything.
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    I get your point Earl, but why is yelling "drop"...

    I get your point Earl, but why is yelling "drop" intimidation and yelling "back" isn't?

    I know that most AA judges would drop this dog. I'm trying to figure out if dropping the dog is justified...
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    Thanks for your input Ted. I'd argue that the...

    Thanks for your input Ted. I'd argue that the line to the blind was so close to the PB and so far from the mat that it was extremely difficult to challenge the test without avoiding the factor.
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    Some dogs avoided the PB to such a degree that...

    Some dogs avoided the PB to such a degree that they were well out of a reasonable corridor thereby not challenging the blind who were called back.





    Your reasoning is sound.
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    Thanks Bill, well stated. As a judge, what I...

    Thanks Bill, well stated. As a judge, what I saw would get this dog carried because there is nothing ( that I could find) definitive in the rules that demands the dog get dropped. Many others did...
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    The handler didn't whine about getting dropped...

    The handler didn't whine about getting dropped but it did raise the question about whether or not he should have.

    The dog did leave the PB alone after being commanded to do so.......how much more...
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    Yes, thiis!!!! It's a blind and the dog is...

    Yes, thiis!!!!

    It's a blind and the dog is taking direction from its handler. The dog didn't retrieve the PB, it didn't switch on its own accord and it didn't do anything other than what it was...
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    OK, I understand your point but does the switch...

    OK, I understand your point but does the switch rule apply to blinds as well as a marking test? The dog didn't complete the "switch" anyway as it dropped the bird on command. Not trying to argue...
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    Here is my thinking. I would carry the dog for...

    Here is my thinking. I would carry the dog for these reasons.

    1. The dog stopped on all the whistles and took all the casts.
    2. The dog stayed within a reasonably tight corridor.
    3. The dog...
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    Dog sat immediately when the whistle was blown...

    Dog sat immediately when the whistle was blown but because it was a left hand turning dog, it ended up right on top of the PB.
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    Your right, the dog did get dropped...

    Your right, the dog did get dropped ........but.....where in the rule book justifys this decision?

    The dog challenged the test, kept within a very tight corridor and didn't retrieve the PB. ...
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    Dog did not "retrieve" the PB. He immediately...

    Dog did not "retrieve" the PB. He immediately spit the bird out on command and didn't make any attempt to return to handler. He took the correct cast back to the blind and then "retrieved" the...
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    It didn't happen to me, I was only a spectator...

    It didn't happen to me, I was only a spectator and I didn't say if the dog was dropped or not;).

    It did generate a lot of discussion in the gallery and nothing I heard from that discussion led...
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    Judging Opinions

    Here's the scenario that happened at a recent Field Trial:

    Land blind (300yds.) with poison bird (leave it bird, diversion bird) thrown towards the true line to the blind (TLTB) that lands...
  23. Judy, I can't think of a more deserving team...

    Judy, I can't think of a more deserving team than you and Trek. Huge congratulations.

    Brian
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    This type of post really doesn't deserve response...

    This type of post really doesn't deserve response but.....

    It is is exactly the same law for Canadians entering the U.S no matter how long ago the offense was.

    As for not "needing" Canadian...
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    I always liked John's dry sense of humor and his...

    I always liked John's dry sense of humor and his innate ability to liven things up.

    I appreciate a man who speaks his mind and doesn't back peddle and John certainly possessed those traits.

    A...
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