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    I'm sorry that happened. Very scary indeed. I...

    I'm sorry that happened. Very scary indeed. I gave up administering any type of maintenance drugs to my dogs years ago. I'm a believer of over-medicating/over-vaccinating and steer clear of what I...
  2. Very nice! Nothing wrong with a little brag ;)

    Very nice! Nothing wrong with a little brag ;)
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    OMG that's horrible! I screamed and everyone in...

    OMG that's horrible! I screamed and everyone in the office popped their head out looking into my office. I am so sorry. That had to be scary. Quite honestly this is my nightmare when living with...
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    I'm not an advocate of FF in the traditional...

    I'm not an advocate of FF in the traditional sense if there are other ways to accomplish the desired result (always pick up on the retrieve) and if the dog is highly motivated for the retrieve. I...
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    Michael is not switching to labs. As for titles...

    Michael is not switching to labs. As for titles and scores, if you see his training assistance's achievements you might change your opinion.
    If 'proving' oneself is only measured by your dogs...
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    Sorry, "some of us" meant me and some others,...

    Sorry, "some of us" meant me and some others, nothing more nothing less. No implication on my part. I think your feathers got ruffled because you feel accused. I'm not accusing anyone. We all...
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    Please show me where I accused anyone of not...

    Please show me where I accused anyone of not using motivational training?

    And let's be real...FF is not motivational. I mean, if I wanted to train someone to run the 50 yard dash would I have...
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    He's moved on to a malinois (and looks like he...

    He's moved on to a malinois (and looks like he might be doing bite work??) from what I've seen of his latest postings. But then again I'm not a fan so I do not read thoroughly. It may or may not be...
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    I totally agree. I don't know where you read I...

    I totally agree. I don't know where you read I don't.
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    How am I digging myself deeper? Because I would...

    How am I digging myself deeper? Because I would rather teach a concept thru motivation rather than pressure?
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    I wish he would to. But unfortunately his sport...

    I wish he would to. But unfortunately his sport of choice is protection and considering he barely has time to compete in his own sport I doubt he'll campaign the two retrievers he currently is...
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    I agree. I wish people wouldn't be so quick to...

    I agree. I wish people wouldn't be so quick to judge.
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    Exactly. Thank you for reading what I wrote as...

    Exactly. Thank you for reading what I wrote as it was written.
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    You got all of that about me from that 3 line...

    You got all of that about me from that 3 line post I made?? You must be a mind reader.
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    Please reread my original post...it says basic...

    Please reread my original post...it says basic FUNDAMENTALS.

    Second, if you believe there is no possible fall out from ecollar training (whether done correctly or incorrectly) than your exposure...
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    "Incorrectly praising for not using two of the...

    "Incorrectly praising for not using two of the quads" ... first of all there are plenty of positive only trainers that have accomplished quite a bit in dog sports. So I don't see how that is...
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    No doubt. Everyone can choose to use the tools in...

    No doubt. Everyone can choose to use the tools in the manner that works for them. There is more than one way to skin a cat.
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    My 'lack of understanding' ... that's a huge...

    My 'lack of understanding' ... that's a huge assumption on your part.
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    When "teaching" concepts, there are some of us...

    When "teaching" concepts, there are some of us who don't want to pressure our dogs into compliance but rather use motivational rewards. There is definitely a time and a place for the ecollar.
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    Yes, but keep in mind it's only the foundation...

    Yes, but keep in mind it's only the foundation training which he will gear towards field work. Once the dog knows the command, Michael is not opposed to using correction. How far he takes the...
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    I said...so it won't be another year until it's...

    I said...so it won't be another year until it's done!??! and he said, no, he and his assistant trainer Lindsay each will raise a pup and incorporate them into the DVD as they grow up. So it should...
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    Erin, I assume she took the puppy development...

    Erin, I assume she took the puppy development class last month; which isn't the same one I took this week. He mentioned doing extensive research on the retriever training process, pedigrees/lineage,...
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    Pet Plan is one of the best companies/plans I've...

    Pet Plan is one of the best companies/plans I've researched. When I made a claim they paid within the stated time frame with no questions asked. If you ever have to make a claim, just be sure to...
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    Michael Ellis - New DVD

    I just completed a 2 day course at the Michael Ellis School for Dog Trainers in California. Michael is a truly gifted trainer who teaches reward based motivational training for all dogs of all...
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    https://www.facebook.com/SuperRetrieverSeries?sk=a...

    https://www.facebook.com/SuperRetrieverSeries?sk=app_142371818162&app_data

    Hopefully that link works.
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