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    Quote Originally Posted by mudminnow View Post
    There is much research that shows when prohibition is ended use of the prohibited substance also decreases. When are we going to realize in America that the government cannot be our mother, especially when it can't balance its own checkbook
    It will start when our mothers realize they should not so heavily rely on the government to cure parenting issues. Its ironic how these countries that supply the drugs have the easiest access at the lowest prices and somehow their society continues to function.
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    Good questions Gerry and they point to the main ideological difference that is underlying the rift in the republican party. Individualism vs. Collectivism. Is it the individuals role to be dictated by the government or to dictate the government. There will never be a solution that ends drug use, and alcohol abuse it much more prevalent than drug abuse. But many drug abusers have an alcohol problem. Is alcohol the true gateway drug? how far down the line do we go to try to stop people from making bad decisions. And the further we go, the more governmental interference we have in our lives. Is that a good thing or a bad thing? that depends where you are on the collectivist/individualist scale

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    Quote Originally Posted by RetrieverNation View Post
    It will start when our mothers realize they should not so heavily rely on the government to cure parenting issues. Its ironic how these countries that supply the drugs have the easiest access at the lowest prices and somehow their society continues to function.
    I'm not sure what you mean here. Mexico is a basket case; pretty much a third world (not second world) country with limited infrastructure, unreliable drinking water, poor sanitation, etc. and really at the base, a failed state. Same can be said of the Central American countries that are the main suppliers of cocaine. The countries where heroin poppies are grown are mostly populated by smelly, uneducated, starving, rope sandal wearing goat herders living in mud huts with no electricity, running water, sewer systems, etc. Not really what I would call functioning compared to how things work here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mudminnow View Post
    Good questions Gerry and they point to the main ideological difference that is underlying the rift in the republican party. Individualism vs. Collectivism. Is it the individuals role to be dictated by the government or to dictate the government. There will never be a solution that ends drug use, and alcohol abuse it much more prevalent than drug abuse. But many drug abusers have an alcohol problem. Is alcohol the true gateway drug? how far down the line do we go to try to stop people from making bad decisions. And the further we go, the more governmental interference we have in our lives. Is that a good thing or a bad thing? that depends where you are on the collectivist/individualist scale
    I have said for years that the folks I knew in school who smoked dope got their first high by stealing beer from their parents' fridge. I just about guarantee that a large percentage of drug users get started on beer or cheap wine.
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    Those would be the #1 selling alcoholic bevarges in the USA by liquid volume outselling beer! Talk about a rough hangover/headache! I drank some Thunderbird once in my youth and puked for days! No telling what kind of crap they put in those bottles.
    It's such a shame that in the USA, defending Liberty has become such a heroic deed.

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