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    There was a thread a while back that asked how to get their dog to the line under control. The attached video show some of the things I practice almost daily in my training. Some of the features are incoporated from Dennis Voigts Training Alone dvd and some from Dave Rorem dvd The Art and Science of...........
    The things I do:
    I always use a holding blind or a vehicle to sit and wait for a few moments before going to teh line
    I put Bumper Boys out without a bumper and shoot them while in the holding blind
    I us a Gunzup cd to simulate hunt test noise
    I will use a two way radio, one of which is attached to the dog box and talk in it while setting up
    In the video I have on of the two way radios on the orange blind pole near the line.
    Sometimes I will "no bird" and heel off the line
    I will often give Rowdy kibble while waiting in the holding blind.

    When training with others Rowdy adn I will wait in a holding blind while a dog runs in front of us.

    Anyway, these are some of the things I do. Hope it helps.


    http://youtu.be/3aD3Hgkn-2k
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    Good video and I applaud the efforts you take. Very hard to so when training alone and we always seem to be in a hurry

    but I do have one question...why did you choose to put the ecollar on after coming out of the second holding blind? If you were looking to simulate real conditions I would have thought you would not want to touch the dog after exiting that blind.

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    Not putting the ecollar on until after the last holding blind was one of Dave Rorem's suggestions. Most of the time we put the ecollar on as soon as we get the dog out of the truck. And then the dog goes into a holding blind and then to the line with the ecollar on. Then he goes to a test or trial and something new. No ecollar on in the holding blind. So, it is in an effort the create the test envirnoment as close as possible but you don't want to train without the ecollar. Therefore it is put on at the last moment.
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    Interesting, that. I imagine that the dog is more high, more adrenaline, and less aware that you are putting on the collar by the time he gets to the 2nd 'holding blind'?

    You wouldn't have been tempted to use it on the way to the line, for sure!

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    Nice video. You are very patient and it shows.
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    very nice work! so what would you have done if coming out of 1st holding blind on way to second and dogs pulling and or jumping straight up and down with excitment? and If differnt what would you do if leaving the second one dog ran to the line?

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    Rooke, I would take some steps backward in my training program. We didn't start off at this level of excitement. I would do an ob refresher. I would set up some holding blinds in my back yard and work on that. Then add some distractions like the cd. What I am suggesting is to move in incremental steps to what Rowdy did in the video. This what we did.
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    Later that same morning. A big fat white pigeon to add more excitement.
    http://youtu.be/EKf7AgciVbk
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    Wayne thats great stuff. You take time to do the little things right, your awesome. If I lived close to you I'd drop my dog off and ask you if you would do that a few times a day. Great video!!

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    Most excellent. I have a couple of questions. First... all the extraneous noises... were those people or the recordings you referenced? Second, the treats you gave in the holding blind. At a real event, the treats in the blind... it wouldn't be allowed would it? (Perhaps a dumb question, but I thought it might be considered "training on the grounds" albeit positive reinforcement.) And if not allowed at a "real" event, what is the purpose of doing it when otherwise the simulation is so very realistic?

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