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Thread: New Rule for JH ? NO collar at all

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    Senior Member Bridget Bodine's Avatar
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    The judges this weekend said that there is a new rule in JH . YOU CANNOT come to line on a flat buckle collar anymore, but can loop a lead and hold both ends. Does anyone have to official verbage to this new rule?
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    Haven't heard of it. It wasn't in the latest rule change, unless there was one more recent than the SH walkup clarification.

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    Just checked the rule book on line AGAIN, read it twice. Compared against my hard copy. It still says brought to the line on lead with a flat buckle collar. I would like to know if there have been amended rules and where they are found?

    Section 5. Junior Hunting Tests. Dogs shall be tested on a minimum of four single marks, two on land and two on
    water. No more than two marks may be thrown in a series.
    Judges in keeping with simulation of realistic but
    relatively simple hunting situations must remember the
    use of numerous decoys, islands, points of land, rolling
    terrain, cover, ditch lines, wind direction, etc. are important
    factors to consider when designing test scenarios to
    evaluate Junior dogs as capable hunting companions.
    (1) Dogs may be sent to retrieve more than once,
    but only in cases of confusion as described in Chapter 4,
    Section 7.
    (2) Dogs shall be steady but may be brought to the line
    on leash with a flat buckle collar.
    The dog is under judgement
    when it leaves the holding blind. A Junior dog that
    is not under control when brought to the line (jumping,
    strongly tugging, etc.) even though it is on a leash shall
    risk receiving a lower score in trainability including zero
    in extreme cases. Dogs may be restrained gently with a
    slipcord looped through the flat buckle collar, or held gently
    by the flat buckle collar until sent to retrieve,
    (3) A dog must retrieve to hand. Failure to do so
    merits a grade of 0 in Trainability.
    (4) A dog may be encouraged to hunt, but excessive
    noise in encouraging the dog suggests a lack of hunting
    desire and a low grade in Perseverance is required.

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    Maybe Francis or Kathy would like to share with us where that came from?

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    Just left a message at AKC will let you know what I find. Anybody have Fran's contact info?
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    /Paul you are just wantin to find out if we can use a choke!! come on , fess up....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bridget Bodine View Post
    /Paul you are just wantin to find out if we can use a choke!! come on , fess up....
    Sure be nice to have an answer after all these years

    /Paul
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    They said it went into effect on Sunday 9/1 . JH was Sat so we still used the buckle collar.....
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    Southern Cross at Sight to Sea SH "Crosby" (by NAFC FC AFC Cody Cut a Lean Grade)
    Tealwood's Willing at Sight to Sea JH ( by CH I am Able)
    Briarglen's Running on Faith JH (by FC Fish River's Out of the Park)
    Glendair's Come Home to the Sea ( By Ch Topform's Edward MH, QAA)
    Sight To Sea's Take Aim SH (by Sight to Sea's Southern Comfort SH )Aug 23 2003-Feb 2013 Go get em , Man!

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    Fabulous.

    I don't recall reading this in any emails or on-line. I assume(don't say it) that AKC will be most timely in updating their website and making note of these changes?

    Good news Cantrell--you can now use the lead as a choke collar~~ BRILLIANT!!

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    NOPE sorry Nancy , can't use it like a slip...only looped around the neck.... I just went back and read the minutes from July and did not see it. Maybe from August which is not posted yet? OR MAYBE the judges were mistaken....
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    Southern Cross at Sight to Sea SH "Crosby" (by NAFC FC AFC Cody Cut a Lean Grade)
    Tealwood's Willing at Sight to Sea JH ( by CH I am Able)
    Briarglen's Running on Faith JH (by FC Fish River's Out of the Park)
    Glendair's Come Home to the Sea ( By Ch Topform's Edward MH, QAA)
    Sight To Sea's Take Aim SH (by Sight to Sea's Southern Comfort SH )Aug 23 2003-Feb 2013 Go get em , Man!

    Manager of www.DeCoverlykennels.com

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