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    Default You were warned. USDA/APHIS adopts rule on home breeding of dogs.

    More info as it is available.

    I haven't any effective date yet.

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    USDA Cracks Down on Internet Pet Sales

    WASHINGTON September 10, 2013 (AP)
    By MARY CLARE JALONICK Associated Press

    The Agriculture Department is cracking down on dog breeders who sell puppies over the Internet with new regulations that will force them to apply for federal licenses.

    The rules announced Tuesday would subject dog owners who breed more than four females and sell the puppies online, by mail or over the phone to the same oversight faced by wholesale animal breeders.

    Many breeders who run their businesses online have skirted federal oversight by classifying themselves as retail pet stores, which are exempt from licensing requirements. Commercial pet stores aren't required to have licenses because buyers can see the animals before they buy them and decide whether they appear healthy and cared for. But that's not the case when buying over the Internet.

    The idea behind the new rules, says USDA's Kevin Shea, is that either government inspectors or buyers see the animals with their own eyes before they are sold.

    Shea, administrator of the USDA's Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service, says the agency is responding to a 2010 USDA inspector general's report that uncovered grisly conditions at so-called "puppy mills" around the country. The report recommended that the department tighten the animal welfare laws written more than four decades ago, long before the advent of the Internet to cut down on unscrupulous breeders.

    In addition to finding dirty, bug-infested conditions at many breeding facilities, inspectors cited numerous reports of buyers who received animals who were sick or dying.

    The new rules, first proposed last year, would ensure that most people who sell pets over the Internet, by phone or mail order can no longer do so sight-unseen. Sellers either must open their doors to the public so buyers can see the animals before they purchase them, or obtain a license and be subject to inspections by the Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service.

    The rules are targeted to dog breeders but could affect breeders of other animals too. The Agriculture Department estimates that up to 4,640 dog breeders could be affected by the rule, along with about 325 cat breeders and up to 75 rabbit breeders.

    Small-size breeders have lobbied against the changes, saying the rules could regulate them out of business. USDA's Shea says the department set the minimum of four breeding females to ensure that those smaller sellers would be able to continue offering puppies.

    "People who have generally been thought of as 'hobby breeders' continue to be exempt," Shea said.

    Shea said the licenses will cost $750 or less and complying with the USDA regulations should only be expensive for breeders who aren't already ensuring their animals have adequate housing and medical care.



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    Default Puppy Breeders selling online

    How is this going to affect what we love and do?

    http://news.yahoo.com/usda-cracks-do...040225530.html
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    Wow. I submitted comments when they were invited; guess they didn't take MY advice!

    This is going to hurt some of our top people, breeders who really know the breed and control a lot of bitches through networking. I can only hope that the licensing requirements don't match those of current USDA wholesale breeders, requiring separate kennel buildings with strict engineering standards that would be impossible for most people because of zoning laws.

    They say it won't be difficult or expensive to comply; we'll see.

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    This will keep the mass producing breeders in check. I guess the good breeders will have to choose their breeding wisely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by afdahl View Post
    Wow. I submitted comments when they were invited; guess they didn't take MY advice!

    This is going to hurt some of our top people, breeders who really know the breed and control a lot of bitches through networking. I can only hope that the licensing requirements don't match those of current USDA wholesale breeders, requiring separate kennel buildings with strict engineering standards that would be impossible for most people because of zoning laws.

    They say it won't be difficult or expensive to comply; we'll see.

    Amy Dahl
    The federal government did not listen to over 70,000 other concerned individuals who wrote and signed AKC petitions. Over Four breeding females puts you under this regulation. The initial language was ambiguous on what age is a breeding female. I routinely keep one to two pups annually until two years old until all health clearances can be done and I can evaluate whether the females meet my high standards for future breeding. I could be impacted simply by the age of my younger girls by definition or simply by shipping one pup or even by allowing one pup to be transported via ground transport service. And I only breed 1-2 litters annually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frontier View Post
    Over Four breeding females puts you under this regulation. The initial language was ambiguous on what age is a breeding female. I routinely keep one to two pups annually until two years old until all health clearances can be done and I can evaluate whether the females are of the quality for breeding. I could easily fall into the category simply by the age of my younger girls by definition or simply by shipping one pup or even by allowing one pup to be transported via ground transport service.
    I said that in one of my comments: that good breeding is SELECTIVE breeding, which by definition means having several brood-bitch candidates around from which you select the best. If they consider those candidates "breeding females," I guess I'll have to insist all puppy buyers show up in person.

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    TODAY 12:45 PM eastern Conference call , sign up is easy


    From: Klingel, Meghan K - APHIS

    Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 3:29 PM
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    Good afternoon:

    Please join APHIS’ Administrator Kevin Shea on a conference call tomorrow, September 10, at 12:45 p.m. EDT for an important Animal Welfare Act regulatory update.

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    The article says, "Sellers either must allow buyers to see animals in person before they purchase them or obtain a license and be subject to inspections by the Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service."

    Does this mean they are just allowed or must come see the animals in person? I have not read the regulations.
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    Bridget, thanks so much for that link!

    I just listened to the call. They said a few things that seem like they might be good.

    Breeders/sellers of "working dogs" are exempt
    They expect most breeders to need no structural or operational changes (I don't understand how given that this is a *definition* change, so I would think the existing rules for wholesalers would apply, but that's what they said).
    Buyers do not have to come to breeder's premises to be exempt, but seller, buyer, and animal must all be in the same place at the same time.

    They said will post press release after the call--I couldn't access the site but imagine traffic will slow eventually. Link is http://www.aphis.usda.gov .

    Amy Dahl

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