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    I'm surprised no one (Evan included) mentioned working the dog from a front sit and casting her in the opposite direction of the flare.
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    I would have if I thought it was a good idea. I don't, however. Simplify.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evan View Post
    I would have if I thought it was a good idea. I don't, however. Simplify.

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    I agree with Evan on this one. That would not produce lasting results. Evan by simplify are you talking shorten up to leave no time for a flare and creating repetition then working it longer.
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    Flares are usually created by using pressure in the same spot too often ,more free sends needed to balance things out....and too high for the comfort level of the dog...As Darrin mentioned force from a front sit will relieve the dogs mental pressure of leaving from the side with pressure ...not the in route pressure....For an inexperienced trainer some times it is a good idea to change locations and start over rather than fight the battle to resolve the problem of the flare...As Rex mentioned " If you created the problem you will not likely be able to solve it " ..Some problems are that away...Steve S ..
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    Quote Originally Posted by yellow machine View Post
    I agree with Evan on this one. That would not produce lasting results. Evan by simplify are you talking shorten up to leave no time for a flare and creating repetition then working it longer.
    Yes. And I would run sessions for 3-5 days starting very close and backing up only as far in any one session as the dog indicated he would drive the route without flare. Reestablish a habit of driving to the pile with confidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarrinGreene View Post
    I'm surprised no one (Evan included) mentioned working the dog from a front sit and casting her in the opposite direction of the flare.
    i do all my dogs front finish. Evan doesn't. For the problem described it is irrelevant. Flaring occurs further out and has nothing to do with the dog being sent from your side or front finish, IMHO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evan View Post
    I would have if I thought it was a good idea. I don't, however. Simplify.

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    Why would you think it a bad idea Evan?
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    I don't think it's a bad idea Darrin. But, like Paul, I don't think it's a solution for the long term.

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    fair enough Evan
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