I have never run HRC or AKC HTs and don't profess to know the rules there... But in my experience... Why are we even talking about this? Reminds me of the former NBA player Allen Iverson and his famous "practice" rant.
I must interject and ask for an opinion from all ends of our spectrum. I guess that would mean both MooseGooser and Ted and everyone in-between.
And I don't want this to be glazed over as a "Bora Promoting NAHRA again" thing as I know it is done and legal in all of the other venues afore mentioned.
The Cold Honor!
a few summers back (well maybe more than a few, I am thinking of Timber doodle in NH) at the NAHRA Field tests. A senior setup that was in vogue that summer was. Working dog comes to line. Another dog and handler are already in front of the judges. You sit in your assigned spot at the end. Like that age old hunt test scenario. You are late and the others started without you.
So you walk up and sit,
Other dog and handler and judges are hunting and are already "set up"
Marks go down.
Other dog picks them up!!!
Then leaves with all those birds and its handler!!!
Then you run a blind and move over to the front position, if you could do a blind retrieve after that.
Scenario, remember NAHRA has to have a hunting scenario given, is that the other dog couldn't run blind retrieves so could you pick up that last one?
And if you did it
Another dog and handler walked up to watch you get your marks.
Dogs and handlers set in the routine as you all so many are stating above would come unglued!
And the judges got a few test requirements over with in one swell foop.
So, why don't you guys mix it up more often?
Ted, have you ever tossed in a cold honor in a trial?
MooseGooser, have you seen this in your HRC days?
it is a fun set up.
"So what is big is not always the Trout nor the Deer but the chance, the being there. And what is full is not necessarily the creel nor the freezer, but the memory." ~ Aldo Leopold
"The Greatest Obstacle to Discovery is not Ignorance -- It is the Illusion of Knowledge" ~ Daniel Boorstin
Ran one this year
Black Ice Retrievers
Too many dogs to list (By some Bitch)
"Helping Hunters Train Their Dogs"
Havent run that exact test you explained but something similar in HRC.
My experience in HRC has seen the Honor dog and Handler very much a part of the working dogs test.