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    Quote Originally Posted by BonMallari View Post
    support..seriously...You share the same BIGOTED views as my sister who lives in SoCal, she got brainwashed by my late BIL and forgot the ONE thing mom/dad taught us..NEVER forget where you came from,dont be ashamed of it but be very grateful for the opportunities that this country has given us..She is a lot like you in thinking that since she is a US citizen that she is above any immigrant both legal and illegal

    You think that its the illegals scamming the system, they are but a blip on the screen, there are more US citizens scamming the system and they come in all colors and all ethnic backgrounds...the illegals in the country just want to pick up a paycheck for their work,they are too afraid of being exposed so they dont go after the SS benefits because it exposes them to scrutiny from ICE

    You continually harp about people having kids and scamming the system, Well guess what, it comes with the territory of living here, it may not be fair and equitable but those are the unwritten rules of the game. If you dont like it you have choices, either change the system or leave
    I have said it a thousand times there is a big difference between LEGAL and illegal. IT IS NOT FAIR OR RIGHT for anyone to steal from someone else whether or not this insane leftwing gov't is a partof it or not. We need to get back to the written rules, the constitution, not the bs fed by those who ignore it and condone the theft! How about the consitution be adhered to not destroyed by liberals!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by luvmylabs23139 View Post
    I have said it a thousand times there is a big difference between LEGAL and illegal. IT IS NOT FAIR OR RIGHT for anyone to steal from someone else whether or not this insane leftwing gov't is a partof it or not. We need to get back to the written rules, the constitution, not the bs fed by those who ignore it and condone the theft! How about the consitution be adhered to not destroyed by liberals!!!
    Actually that's not true, you continue to insult American born citizens (anchor babies), you have no regard for the Constitution in that regard, you pick and choose the parts of it you agree with. If you wanted to go back to the written rules you would quit talking about American born citizens along with voting rights, however you have no regard to the Constitution, you must be a liberal since you are trying to destroy it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luvmylabs23139 View Post
    Actually I had no choice in the matter. I was not quite 4 when I moved here.
    Nobody jumped a border or broke any laws!
    I had my green card in hand the minute I stepped on American soil. If you have a problem with that talk to the powers that be.
    My father was not a border jumping unskilled laborer. Sorry if the US did not have enough of the right type of engineeers back in 1967 so they recruited from alleys who worked for the British dept of defense.
    NO I do not think I should pay for people who either cheat and jump the border or can't keep their legs crossed. I make zero appology for that attitude.
    You are no better than an anchor baby - there were plenty of engineers capable of doing the job in this country. Companies were trying to keep labor rates down & those guys worked cheaper but certainly not better. What the US ended up with in general was underperforming malcontents who thought themselves superior as they had won the lottery in their own country & had been able to attend their institutes of higher learning. I worked with a ton of them who didn't survive the SST layoffs from 68-71. Most will not remember but there was a billboard on I-5 that "will the last person to leave please turn out the lights".

    You have a really bad attitude, you might want to rethink your feelings of superiority to anyone. At one time or another I have had engineers from just about every region of the world reporting to me. The East Europeans thought themselves superior (that would be the group you immigrated with) but rarely could push a tough job, the folks from ME had been around camels & simple carts too much though I did have an Egyptian that was a real producer, the folks from India had a real issue with their lead engineer being willing to get himself dirty to get a job done & the folks East of India to Korea had to be taught to stand up to authority (once that was done they were really good engineers, though not real original). The best at what we did were the good old farm boys from middle america .

    Quote Originally Posted by BonMallari View Post
    We get it already..seems like every other post of yours is about complaining about anchor babies and other offspring of the like, We get it, your bigoted view of illegals gets tiresome,seems to be the single thought that drives every response of yours here on POTUS..give it a rest
    I worked with a lot of them during the time frame luvy & I describe. Everyone seemed to think they needed an Engineer on their staff, It was a time of huge underutilization of engineering talent available in this country. It is no different today - the tech companies hire these people because they work cheaper & are not as prone to leaving a project that is bogged down than someone with flexibility. We used to have someone on this forum that could comment with a more close up view to that - unfortunately they were red carded.
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    Marvin : you just described the engineers(tech)at IBM in San Jose/Santa Clara to a T...one of my brothers worked for a telecommunications division of theirs just before the dot com bubble, and they were importing engineers left, right, and center from every part of the globe for EXACTLY the reasons you mentioned, and just like you explained when the SHTF they generally caved and were not up to the task at hand..seems like the engineering schools just didnt match up with those found here in the states
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    Quote Originally Posted by luvmylabs23139 View Post
    Actually I had no choice in the matter. I was not quite 4 when I moved here.
    Nobody jumped a border or broke any laws!
    I had my green card in hand the minute I stepped on American soil. If you have a problem with that talk to the powers that be.
    My father was not a border jumping unskilled laborer. Sorry if the US did not have enough of the right type of engineeers back in 1967 so they recruited from alleys who worked for the British dept of defense.
    NO I do not think I should pay for people who either cheat and jump the border or can't keep their legs crossed. I make zero appology for that attitude.
    That clears up a lot. Coming from alley people one would expect this sort of behavior. Luvy, your venomous writing reminds me of the words and actions of the old south. Thankfully that way of life is behind us, but you seem to revel in it. You would have fit right in! Maybe now with mental health coverage mandated by your president, you are a US citizen after all, you can get that much needed help and work on your anger issues and possibly become a better person for it.( they can't exclude you for a pre-exisiting condition so you are covered ). Either that or head back across the pond and see how that goes for you.

    Being a Brit, you should be a whole lot more greatful for what America gives you. You could have been speaking German!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marvin S View Post
    At one time or another I have had engineers from just about every region of the world reporting to me. The East Europeans thought themselves superior (that would be the group you immigrated with) but rarely could push a tough job, the folks from ME had been around camels & simple carts too much though I did have an Egyptian that was a real producer, the folks from India had a real issue with their lead engineer being willing to get himself dirty to get a job done & the folks East of India to Korea had to be taught to stand up to authority (once that was done they were really good engineers, though not real original). The best at what we did were the good old farm boys from middle america .
    Like you, at Siemens I worked with engineers from every part of the globe. Although as you can imagine, most of my exposure was to German Engineers. They thought the were superior to everyone. Although for some reason we were superior to them when it came to making money. They were stacked pretty high with guys you had to call Doctor, although I don't think their Doctor is the same as our PhD. I used to meet with them several times a year in Nuremberg so we could keep our development departments aware of what the other was doing. My boss used to laugh at the huge amount of data they used to present. He said that they need a whole team of engineers to accomplish in a year what I did, calculating everything to the nth degree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marvin S View Post
    You are no better than an anchor baby - there were plenty of engineers capable of doing the job in this country. Companies were trying to keep labor rates down & those guys worked cheaper but certainly not better. What the US ended up with in general was underperforming malcontents who thought themselves superior as they had won the lottery in their own country & had been able to attend their institutes of higher learning. I worked with a ton of them who didn't survive the SST layoffs from 68-71. Most will not remember but there was a billboard on I-5 that "will the last person to leave please turn out the lights".

    You have a really bad attitude, you might want to rethink your feelings of superiority to anyone. At one time or another I have had engineers from just about every region of the world reporting to me. The East Europeans thought themselves superior (that would be the group you immigrated with) but rarely could push a tough job, the folks from ME had been around camels & simple carts too much though I did have an Egyptian that was a real producer, the folks from India had a real issue with their lead engineer being willing to get himself dirty to get a job done & the folks East of India to Korea had to be taught to stand up to authority (once that was done they were really good engineers, though not real original). The best at what we did were the good old farm boys from middle america .



    I worked with a lot of them during the time frame luvy & I describe. Everyone seemed to think they needed an Engineer on their staff, It was a time of huge underutilization of engineering talent available in this country. It is no different today - the tech companies hire these people because they work cheaper & are not as prone to leaving a project that is bogged down than someone with flexibility. We used to have someone on this forum that could comment with a more close up view to that - unfortunately they were red carded.
    Gotta love your quote! Not like my father was one of those from India that you and my husband complain about. Yup he bitches non stop about them and I get it.
    Sorry not Eastern Europe! Scotland is western Europe. My father's employer prior to moving to the US was the British dept of defense. Stratiscope Appollo, skylab, hubble, etc. Those are the names I know and he can somewhat talk about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Golddogs View Post
    That clears up a lot. Coming from alley people one would expect this sort of behavior. Luvy, your venomous writing reminds me of the words and actions of the old south. Thankfully that way of life is behind us, but you seem to revel in it. You would have fit right in! Maybe now with mental health coverage mandated by your president, you are a US citizen after all, you can get that much needed help and work on your anger issues and possibly become a better person for it.( they can't exclude you for a pre-exisiting condition so you are covered ). Either that or head back across the pond and see how that goes for you.

    Being a Brit, you should be a whole lot more greatful for what America gives you. You could have been speaking German!
    I grew up in the north east, and am very happy to call the south home now! You go own the condo we owned in CT and have your hard earned taxpayer money taken from you to make your life a living hell!!
    Get your property value trashed with your hard earned money! LIve that crap and then talk to me. YOU can;t sell because too many Paid for with your hard earned money section 8 slime move in. THey block your car with their brand new car so you can't go to work etc etc etc. Yeah, my hard earned money screwed me! Spend one week and you would still be screaming 15 years later!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz View Post
    Like you, at Siemens I worked with engineers from every part of the globe. Although as you can imagine, most of my exposure was to German Engineers. They thought the were superior to everyone. Although for some reason we were superior to them when it came to making money. They were stacked pretty high with guys you had to call Doctor, although I don't think their Doctor is the same as our PhD. I used to meet with them several times a year in Nuremberg so we could keep our development departments aware of what the other was doing. My boss used to laugh at the huge amount of data they used to present. He said that they need a whole team of engineers to accomplish in a year what I did, calculating everything to the nth degree.
    Whatever, my family is not German and my dad never worked for Siemens. Nobdody ever had to call him "Doctor".
    Before moving to the US he simply worked for an ally. The British dept of defense. If you have an issue with that so be it.
    If you have an issue with being proud of your father for going beyond and above to get a few Americans home when you don't get to see Daddy for days so be it.
    He kept Appllo 13 alive. That was his job. That did not happen in Huston TX. It happened in CT. They are the ones that dealt with the O2 levels and how low they could go. They pushed the limits. My dad saw the movie once and could never watch it again. I walked those halls. I grew up with those that really brought them home by keeping them alive.
    On the other end we have a friend of dh who went to MIT worked for Seimens and I have no time for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mngundog View Post
    Actually that's not true, you continue to insult American born citizens (anchor babies), you have no regard for the Constitution in that regard, you pick and choose the parts of it you agree with. If you wanted to go back to the written rules you would quit talking about American born citizens along with voting rights, however you have no regard to the Constitution, you must be a liberal since you are trying to destroy it.
    The 14th amendment was never meant for border jumpers ! End squat and plop today! Hey on a personal level I think only those who pay federal income taxes should be allowed to vote. If you take and don;t pay you should have no right to STEAL what someone worked for.
    I have zero respect for anyone who is taking what I earned while they breed like rabbits and eat bon bons.
    NO way they should get one dime of my hard earned money!!! Get off your fat butt, keep your legs crossed and shut up!
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