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Thread: The income distribution - is this reverse socialism?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GaryJ View Post
    It is not about being cold. The children are playing by the rules. The rule says if you are born here you are a citizen. It doesn't say if your mother was here illegally it doesn't count. So as someone who plays by the rules I would expect you to understand that. Not that you need to like the rule, and for the record I don't care for it either, or even agree with it but if that is the rule then until its changed the rule stands.

    Section 1 of the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution reads:
    “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

    The Fourteenth Amendment was passed by Congress in 1866 and ratified by the states in 1868. It’s been a part of the Constitution for almost 150 years.
    When a woman who is an illegal immigrant bears a child in the US, the Fourteenth Amendment makes that child automatically a citizen. If the mother is arrested and deported, she has to choose between taking her child with her or being separated from the child.
    The jump, plop and squat rule is so stupid. It allows grand theft from federal tax payers. On the other hand my Aunt and Uncle have to be very careful about how many days per year they visit their house outside of Disney that they bought paying cash per year.
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    Why do you hate the constitution?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz View Post
    Why do you hate the constitution?
    Luvy posts as someone with more than their fair share of hate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by luvmylabs23139 View Post
    YOU compare hundreds of years ago to current day? What a joke. Jump through a ton of legal hoops as a skilled worker vs border jumping and squat, plop, amd leech???? Really??
    You keep saying they leech! They are the productive ones....the lazy, the world owes me US citizens are the leeches and those piss me off much more than someone who comes and gives their labor and takes the fruit of it.

    No difference that 100 years ago...someone looking for opportunity. No different than when our companies go and exploit their labor in other countries other than the laws have been written to where that is legal.

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    It's almost not even worth debating Luvy. It's just gonna cause you to blow a blood vessel or something... Libs don't think laws apply unless they support the lib agenda. Simple as that. Menmon... Love to see you sneak across the border into Mexico and try to tell the Mexican govt you just want to start a little doggie hotel in Cancun... But first they need to pay for your food for a few years... Maybe some welfare, tuition assistance, and of course health care...
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    Quote Originally Posted by huntinman View Post
    It's almost not even worth debating Luvy. It's just gonna cause you to blow a blood vessel or something... Libs don't think laws apply unless they support the lib agenda. Simple as that. Menmon... Love to see you sneak across the border into Mexico and try to tell the Mexican govt you just want to start a little doggie hotel in Cancun... But first they need to pay for your food for a few years... Maybe some welfare, tuition assistance, and of course health care...
    See all those opportunist coming here from all over the world is what makes us great! If we have to depend on our citizenary for productive folks, we are in a big bunch of hurt. I suggest they get off their ass and out work these folks and they have nothing to worry about. Sounds like you want government to protect them. I thought you were for government staying out of your business?

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    Menmon, what portion of our citizenry are you referring to as lazy leeches? Would that be the ones that you so often defend against all of the cruel, greedy conservatives out there?
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    Quote Originally Posted by menmon View Post
    See all those opportunist coming here from all over the world is what makes us great! If we have to depend on our citizenary for productive folks, we are in a big bunch of hurt. I suggest they get off their ass and out work these folks and they have nothing to worry about. Sounds like you want government to protect them. I thought you were for government staying out of your business?
    I never said anything about the government protecting anyone... Come to think of it... That is their job, but Obama has proven he doesn't take it seriously.

    What the govt should do, at a minimum is enforce the current laws on the books.

    Those opportunists you mention? They are actually criminals if they break the law to get here.
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    Even the wall street journal is getting worried about the current distribution of wealth. http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/...86223105265440

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry V View Post
    Even the wall street journal is getting worried about the current distribution of wealth. http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/...86223105265440
    As with most in the print media, the WSJ is concerned about their bottom line. Without that to fall back on they will be unable to hire business types such as Albert Hunt to expound on their editorial page.

    Though I will say in your defense Henry, anyone who makes an investment that doesn't look at the market potential of that product is not being wise. Henry Ford had a very good idea when he made sure his employees were capable of buying one of what they built, just wouldn't give them a choice of color .
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