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Thread: USDA's Breeders License/inspection...clarification?

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    If I have 4 or less breeding females of any kind (hunting dogs) AND sell at least one pup sight unseen that means I will need a license and will be subject to inspections correct?

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    I did read it already, thanks. Just trying to make sure that I understand it correctly from those who know.

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    My take: If you have more than four (five or more) breeding females, and you sell pet puppies sight unseen you must comply.

    There is an exemption for working dogs.

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    So if I have less than 5 breeding females, I can sell puppies to be working dogs (hunting) sight unseen and will not have to comply to the new regulations?...

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    It's really going to come down to how the individual inspector wants to interpret the regs. Some will exercise some common sense and look to the "Intent" the revisors had in mind, other won't. We're going to have to deal with politics where we haven't had to in the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jax View Post
    If I have 4 or less breeding females of any kind (hunting dogs) AND sell at least one pup sight unseen that means I will need a license and will be subject to inspections correct?

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    Dan
    This NAIA's link I shared in the other thread is helpful in case you missed it.
    http://www.naiaonline.org/articles/a...d-you#KeyFacts
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    From the NAIA paper named "The Retail Pet Store Final Rule and You" is the following:

    -- It is not the regulatory intent of USDA to regulate breeders, unless they are clearly breeding for the purpose of selling puppies.

    -- If you keep 5 breeding females and sell even one dog, cat, etc., remotely, for use as a pet and are not engaged in one of the activities that are exempted from being a dealer, you must be license. (Writers note: The exempted activities are a dog sold for purposes of herding, working or sporting activities.)

    --If you sell all of your puppies in person, you may keep as many breeding females as your local laws allow and not be regulated by the federal government.

    The legal issues portion was written by Julian Prager. Julian is a breeder, shower, and judge of Bulldogs. He's also an attorney with more than a passing interest in dog law related subjects.

    While there are several issues which need clarification, these are the primary ones that affect most of the members here. A couple of the other issues are puppies taken back or which serve as a stud fee and then ultimately sold. The rule and docket are silent on this example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mwk56 View Post
    My take: If you have more than four (five or more) breeding females, and you sell pet puppies sight unseen you must comply.

    There is an exemption for working dogs.

    Meredith
    May be a bit more to it than that. If not, then every breeder in the country would claim that they are breeding "working dogs".

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    Dang! Whelped one litter & already labeled as a backyard breeder & puppy mill!
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