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    Iran Said to Seek a Nuclear Accord to End SanctionsBy THOMAS ERDBRINK and MARK LANDLER

    Seizing on a perceived flexibility in a letter from President Obama to President Hassan Rouhani, Iran's leaders are focused on getting quick relief from crippling sanctions, a top adviser to the Iranian leadership said.
    Yup ... I believe them, don't you?
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    Is it bad that I believe them more than I do our government? Iran has the potential to be a great ally, the people just elected a moderate candidate that ran on improving relationships with the western powers. He beat out the bomb Israel candidate and the other candidate that wanted to bomb Israel and sprinkle salt on the ground after. Our media is trying to paint them as an unredeemable bad guy, but there is great opportunity there for better relations.

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    I think they need a little more crippling. They want the sanctions eased so that they can accelerate their nuclear weapons program. When they start drinking their oil because they have run out of food, it will ALMOST be time to ease up. -Paul
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    So do we trust first and hope or do we make Iran earn our trust. Where I come from you need earn my trust. It would be very easy to open the doors to the UN to validate where the Uranium is going.
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    Iran is not ruled by an ‘elected’ official, he us just afigure head. The Supreme Leader of Iran is Ayatollah Khameneithehead of state and highest ranking political and religious authority in the Islamic Republic of Iran. Theleader is more powerful than the President of Iran and appoints the heads of many powerfulposts in the military, the civil government, and the judiciary. The current President is Hassan Rouhani he is the mainnegotiator with the West, but has no power, only what Ayatollah tells him to door not to do!
    Remember Iran’scurrent Ayatollah and original Ayatollah has sworn to destroy Israel and allher allies. That is the only promise youcan trust from Iran!

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    Interesting ... is the fatwa against nuclear weapons a hoax; and has Obama bought into the hoax?

    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/09...cmp=latestnews

    Carmon noted that Khamenei in 2012 was asked directly about the morality of pursuing nuclear weapons, and his answer was telling.

    The question asked to Khamenei was, in light of a Koran teaching that orders Muslims to “prepare against [non-Muslims] whatever you are able of power and of steeds of war by which you may terrify the enemy of Allah,” is it also “forbidden to obtain nuclear weapons, as per your ruling that their use is prohibited?”


    Khamenei’s answer, according to MEMRI, was “your letter has no jurisprudential aspect. When it has a jurisprudent position, then it will be possible to answer it.”
    In April 2012, then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, speaking at a NATO conference, cited the supposed fatwa, but with a degree of skepticism.
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    Looks like Obama/Kerry decide to trust first, ask questions later.
    "I met Secretary Kerry right before he leaves to Geneva," said Netanyhau. "I reminded him that he said that no deal is better than a bad deal. That the deal that is being discussed in Geneva right now is a bad deal. It’s a very bad deal. Iran is not required to take apart even one centrifuge. But the international community is relieving sanctions on Iran for the first time after many years. Iran gets everything that it wanted at this stage and it pays nothing. And this is when Iran is under severe pressure. I urge Secretary Kerry not to rush to sign, to wait, to reconsider, to get a good deal. But this is a bad deal--a very, very bad deal. It’s the deal of a century for Iran; it’s a very dangerous and bad deal for peace and the international community."
    I think that Obama/Kerry have been played big time.

    However, another article mentioned that Congress could have something to say about lifting sanctions.
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    It is good to negotiate with Iran. They do not trust us and most likely never will and we do not trust them and never will. Odd as it sounds that is actually a pretty predictable platform to do work with. The president of Iran is the type of person we want in there. Letting him have some wins will help raise his level of influence. I am not suggesting dropping sanctions and letting them be, but defiantly being supportive of this guy is a good thing for us.
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    http://dailycaller.com/2013/11/09/ir...l-be-attacked/
    Henlee, I don't believe that Iran ever really wanted to negotiate. Rhouhani may "look" better, but he has the same beliefs as his predecessor ... just may present himself with less passion.

    Obama had eased up on some sanctions to show good will (presumably; though it could have been just guilability) ... but I sure hope that Congress doesn't agree to more of that.
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    “The president has been willing and made it clear that he is prepared to use force with respect to Iran’s weapon, and he has deployed the forces and the weapons necessary to achieve that goal if it has to be achieved,” he said. “We can’t let mythology and politics start to cloud reality.”

    Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...#ixzz2kGsuj6oY
    This sounds a little like the "red line" drawn for Syria. I doubt world leaders place much credibility in Obama's "clear" statements any longer.

    Was kind of surprising to see France stand up, I thought.

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