"For everyone to whom much is given, of him shall much be required." -- Luke 12:48
Raven - Moneybird's Black Magic Marker***
(Esprit's Power Play x Trumarc's Lean Cuisine)
Mick - Moneybird's Jumpin' Jack Flash***
(Clubmead's Road Warrior x Oakdale Whitewater Devil Dog)
Peerless - Moneybird's Sole Survivor
(Two River's Lucky Willie x Moneybird's Black Magic Marker)
Y'all is plural, ya'll would be singular.THE dog would be anything but yellow . Other than that can't say.
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I agree with the LSU prediction and have my fingers crossed on the Saints! I'm gonna take a stab at it! I know Jacob and I agree with a bunch of his bold comments! I think he believes that regardless of the breeding or the training if you don't have a dog with that special something then the other stuff may not matter. During my many years involved in coaching it was easier to find underachievers than overachievers. I would think there are plenty of dogs out there that may be talented enough but don't get the opportunity to shine; however, there are plenty that just don't have it. In general you can't put in what isn't there.
The maximizers are few & far between - one has a training grounds named after him, one left the sport to also succeed in pointers & the third had a series of dogs, five in all, named Chip, White Shoes, Carbon, Chopper & Emmitt that he started as pups who were fairly successful with no washouts.
I'm sure there are others who meet the maximizer criteria & numerous who meet the minimizer criteria with many in between. & some who got lucky for a while .
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I absolutely agree that good training is important and often brings out the most in a dog, horse, athlete, etc. I was not implying that it doesn't just making an observation as to what Jacob posted; however, you have to have something to start with.
Last edited by coachmo; 09-27-2013 at 07:38 PM.
With all due respect here. It can matter what breeding, and it can matter who trains or owns the dog. You can quite often find poorly thought out breedings or even breedings that look to be a sure thing that bust. Breeding Labs is a business where great nicks are never guaranteed. I have a buddy that paid BIG bucks for a Lean Mac x FC/AFC pup that was washed out by two pros. Another guy (near and dear to my heart) bred a well bred MH bitch to a hot FC/AFC sire that had a few trial folks interested in his breeding but a couple of the interested parties opted for a similar breeding out of an FC bitch. Said the "MH wasn't a guarantee that the bitch had talent".The MH breeding produced 3 FCs and 2 QAA pups while the FC bitch bred to the same sire produced nada!!!
It's quite possible that any given quality (on paper) breeding could produce "the" dog that could be with "the" wrong owner or "the" wrong trainer. The pedigrees and/or abilities of both sire and dam are not the only things that need to nick!!! It's always a crap shoot, but Id go with the best potential pedigree that has a solid bitchline full of both proven female producers and/or competitors.
Last edited by David Maddox; 09-27-2013 at 10:53 PM.
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