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    No dog will ever get a "library quiet" test. Radio talk WILL happen, the loudest jet in the US Military inventory WILL do a low flyover, someone WILL call the kid doing traffic control and tell him to wake up, the kids down the street WILL get on your radio channel and start goofing off, 10 Harley's with straight pipes and that 427 Shelby Cobra with side pipes WILL drive by at high RPM when you're on the line getting ready to run etc, etc, etc,....

    I completely agree that it's distracting although, much more for the handler than the dogs. I've never seen a dog suck to a retired gun station instead of a flier because the dog heard some noise on the radio. You'll never get a sterile library type environment. There will always be whistles, chatting from the gallery, chatting from the camp trailers and radio noise. Up to the handler to suck it up and run the dog and not make excuses.

    I've heard it blamed on the gun station when it was people 300 yards away at the porta-potty laughing. That made it 500-600 yards away from the line. Use that as an excuse why the dog sucked in to the flier station? The dog sucked to the flier station because its an F-ing flier station.

    Ahhh......don't get me started.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by roseberry View Post
    some played football, some played golf.

    jd, i will be very quiet if i am ever at a trial where you are running that dog of ours!
    Our Own Payton Manning WHINES at the crowd, when HE has the ball,,, for the Crowd to sit down, shut up,, and pay attention in church..

    He can even control the drunk crowd at the game! Imagine being able to control a inconsiderate drunk!
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    Have you ever attended a meeting,, and the person speaking is a notable personality that most attending are intrigued to listen to what he may say,,, but when he approaches the podium to speak, he has to stand and stare at the group to get them to shut up?

    Does that drive you all crazy as it does me??

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    I totally agree with Happy. There are going to be distractions. Train for them. The people complaining about the gallery, whiny honor dog, bitch in heat ect, are the same people at every event.

    I once drove my Ranger across a piece of property to invite someone to join our group. Got chewed out for distracting his dog. It was no surprise that his dog went out on the blind at the next event.

    If I am too loud & inconsiderate then I will quit rebirding, moving stakes, shooting flyers, delivering lunches and go sit by my truck . I will park away, cook on the grill & shoot the breeze with Lonnie. Maybe some of the complainers will pick up my slack.
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    Mark, I have worked quite a bit along side of you at a hunt and I can say I have never heard you be that loud to distract the test. You will never be able to sit by your truck and grill. IF half of the gallery that is talking loud would get up and do 1/4 of what you do all hunt test would be better. Train in a group and make noise while training and dog just gets use to it.

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    Damn those inconsiderate 140 decibel 12 guages! The NERVE of those gunners.....
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    As I stated in the OP, the dog does not seem distracted. He comes to the line and looks around picking out the bird stations. I really can't say that at the time I am truly distracted myself. I'm as deaf as fishduck for much the same reasons.
    What I noted last night as I watched some of the videos was how much noise there sometimes was on the line. Most be the nature of the sound recording.

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    I train with distractions all the time. A 7 year old girl and 4 year old boy. Just yesterday I came out of the holding blind and my dog was whacked on the back with a hoola hoop. Just kept going to the line. They are usually playing baseball or screaming or any number of other things doesn't seem to bother my dogs at all. Helps when I get to a trial and everybody wants to be moving and talking.
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    The fact that no test is going to be 100% quiet is a given, but that doesn't mean as judges, workers and spectators that we can't make every effort to be respectful of the working dog(s) and their handlers.
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    I guess I'm good at just ignoring it....you train enough in a training group you learn to block out the distractions and focus....when you are on the line, if you are letting the happenings around you distract you are you doing your part? You can not control the actions of those around you so why let it cause you heart burn, control what you can and focus. Yes I agree, there should be a little more respect given to the handler, but it doesn't always happen. The last HT I ran (you were there JD), I was surprised at how close the gallery was allowed to sit, at times I wondered if the dogs weren't watching the gallery vs. their handler....however I didn't worry about it when I ran my dog, not much I could do about it, so I just roll with the punches and do my job as a handler. I think we let things bother us more so than we need to.
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