Quote Originally Posted by dexdoolittle View Post
I will ask it another way. If you were doing cheaty singles with a young dog and he failed to go what would you do?
This is exactly what I was thinking when I read the first thread. There are times when forcing on marks is appropriate. Chris's lack of effort post probably covers the ones I can think of offhand.

I did not want to muddy the waters for the op of the first thread by posting on it.