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Thread: Bill Hillmann puppy VS Sound Beginnings

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    Default Bill Hillmann puppy VS Sound Beginnings

    Got another 8 week old fire breather and looking to buy an actual puppy dvd. I have read nothing but good things about both. Sound Beginnings is a lot cheaper so is the Hillmann one that much better for tripple the price?

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    I like the Mertens DVD better.

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    I like them both. I like mertens for the very young puppies and treat training. I like Hillmans traffic cop approach for teaching sit and steadying.
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    Pat Nolan of Pondarosa Kennels has an excellent site you may want to check out, trainingretrieverpuppies.com Good Luck with pup
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerald Kelley View Post
    so is the Hillmann one that much better for tripple the price?
    Gerald
    Absolutely.

    However, Hillmann starts out @ 11 Weeks.

    There may be some 7-11 week socialization training
    you need to learn about in the Sound Beginnings DVD.

    If you go the Hillmann route, you might should invest in the full line of DVD's
    from Pup to Fetch to Fundamentals Part 1 & 2.

    and +1 on Pat Nolan. I've must have watched 50 of his YouTube Videos/ The man can get pups and dogs to do amazing things. He also has a knack for explaining training. Sometimes it's good to see a different perspective.

    Always got a kick out of this one. I LOL every time I see that pup bite the table! LOL!

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    Thanks for the info! I have the Duck Dog Basics 1 and 2. I really like those since they are easy for me to follow. Just thought I would see if I was missing out on anything with the Hillmann or Sound Beginnings.

    Wayne is the tracffic cop approch in his puppy dvd or a different one?

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    I have used all 3 with satisfactory results. It helps to watch them a few times each, and again right before your pup gets to the particular age/stage of learning the Cd's focus on.

    By watching a few times, (and taking some notes), you might have more of it 'internalized' - so when you get the pup out to "do a little fun training", it is second nature.

    I really like Pat Nolan - he really shows what little sponges the babies are for learning and shows you how to shape behaviors.

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    Traffic cop is in his puppy dvd
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    Mertens is great for puppy work. Use the Hillmann 'Training a retriever puppy' to teach the sit command to fire breathers. It teaches a pup patience, how to be a team player, and steadiness from the very beginning without harsh methods.

    By using the Hillmann method properly you won't be starting threads on RTF titled, "How did I stop my dog from creeping" or "How do I deal with noise".

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    Pat Nolan's videos are very good. I am constantly amazed by the stuff he can get a small pup to do. They are on Youtube.
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