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    I have a dog who has been lame intermittantly ( Left front) for three weeks now.
    Started at the end of a training session.
    I rested him a few days and he seemed fine and no more lameness. So he started limping again, not full on non weight bearing but I can see him hold up his foot when theres no adrenaline involved. Have checked pads , between toes, paw, etc, palpated (only noticed some discomfort with palpating foot-) and have got nowhere.
    So rested another full week, and vetted. Full xrays toes to shoulder showed nothing.
    Used NSAID as needed, helped, two days off- lame again.
    Im not sure where to go from here. Any suggestions where to start?
    He had a full CBC a month or so, ago with everything WNL except elevated 'eosiniphils'. ( then did full HW test, fecal exam, Brucellosis, - all completely negative......)
    Obviously Im concerned about him- but not sure what may be next.....
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    did the full blood work include a full (not screening) tick panel? Since it started right after a training session, I wouldn't be real suspicious of a TBD, but still.
    FWIW, my boy is just coming off of an injury to his right front pastern. It took 6 weeks of "leash walk only" and 3 weeks of rimadyl to properly heal it up. Sort of like a sprained ankle I guess. After the first 3 weeks I saw no limping, but the vet insisted on 3 more weeks of no activity for it to heal.

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    My male had a very similar problem a while back. His lymph glands where his neck and front of the shoulder meet were swollen to about the size of a golf ball. Vet put him an antibiotics and steroids for a couple of weeks and knocked it out pretty quick. Never found out what caused it but it was definitely affecting his ability to work. He's been fine since. Going through something like that sure makes you pay a lot of attention to the way they walk/run every time you work them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hotel4dogs View Post
    FWIW, my boy is just coming off of an injury to his right front pastern. It took 6 weeks of "leash walk only" and 3 weeks of rimadyl to properly heal it up. Sort of like a sprained ankle I guess. After the first 3 weeks I saw no limping, but the vet insisted on 3 more weeks of no activity for it to heal.
    How was it diagnosed? Did the vet see anything on xrays?
    I spoke with him this morning, he is going to send them to the radiologist today. They'll have them today and probably a reading because its digital and they send results by email.
    I think ,this morning, noticed a swelling in his carpal joint but its subtle.
    I swear vets probably think Im nuts when they dont find anything. I know my dog- he is in pain.For a lab to show pain, they must actually hurt pretty good- theyre so stoic otherwise.
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    It did not show on xray, and no inflammation showed on xray. It was mostly just a process of elimination thing, the vet manipulated all of his joints/toes/etc. on that leg and and the only place he *thought* he got a pain response was in the carpal area. And if you looked at him carefully with your imagina-scope, he might have been a bit more down on that carpal joint than on the other one.
    The only time I saw him limp was at a trot, which apparently was the other clue.
    If it is a soft tissue injury, unfortunately it takes a LONG time for them to heal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hotel4dogs View Post
    It did not show on xray, and no inflammation showed on xray. It was mostly just a process of elimination thing, the vet manipulated all of his joints/toes/etc. on that leg and and the only place he *thought* he got a pain response was in the carpal area. And if you looked at him carefully with your imagina-scope, he might have been a bit more down on that carpal joint than on the other one.
    The only time I saw him limp was at a trot, which apparently was the other clue.
    If it is a soft tissue injury, unfortunately it takes a LONG time for them to heal.
    Sounds very much like my dog's issue. But he is lame more than that-
    waiting for the results on the radioligist reading...
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    Sorry to be unclear, my boy was much more lame than that the first 2 weeks, too. Then the third week (this is with NO activity) it went to just at a trot.

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    I would suggest a tick panel. Many tick born diseases have a gestation period of a few weeks before they affect the dog. Some dogs show minor symptoms such as lethargy,appetite loss, or fever. Others may have a more serious incubation with high fever, reduced platelet counts, and swollen lymph nodes. Specifically I would check for Erlichia-which can cause Erlichia induced arthritis. I have personally seen a dog the was lame on a single front foot. It was checked and rechecked for everything. Finally a different vet in the same office suggested a tick panel. Early treatment is best. Typically a 4-6 week cycle of doxycycline and prednisone treat the issue. There may need to be subsequent or maintenance treatments yearly.
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    A few days of rest may not be enough, may take much, much longer.
    Has the dog been seen by an orthopedic specialist?
    If it is a soft tissue injury, MRI imaging may be warranted.
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    You can do a 3500 MRI than go in and fix it or just have your Dr use the scope , go in find the problem and fix it, thats what we did for Bear. His lameness lasted months would come and go .
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