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    Quote Originally Posted by MooseGooser View Post
    Back in those days. I dont ever recall witnessing a 35 yrd mark at any test level.

    Most were pushing the distance in the rule book ,,100 yrds
    this I am sure is regional and may have to do with the natural cover you have. many of your classic rtf photos, you do not have a lot of cover
    we have still a handfull of judges here that can throw a "test in a teacup" not as common but often huge pucker factor!
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    Out here; Senior AKC usually very poorly "hidden" holding blinds (Forest Camo is not hidden in Desert enviro) and they do still call and shoot from the station, all wingers. One rule change is there is No longer a call on the walk-up (supposed to be a short right in your face retrieve). Of course then you gets a trick-sy judge that puts a holding blind right out there to be seen (hiding the blind planter-bull-dog or something) and then hides the real stations, (well). That one was Fun; taught me; I need to work on turning my dog off holding blinds and with hidden stations .
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    Ken

    Remember I said "back in the day"

    Now ( present day) a walk up by RULE is 35 yrds hidden gun,,surprise throw with no attention getter.. This is very different,,,very HRC like..

    Same cover now as then,, and I see short marks often, with very hidden guns,, and weird throws.
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    Maybe,,

    What the discussion should be is this:

    Since per the RULES,, "marking is of PRIMARY importance" ,Consider what a very Prominent person and Judge here on RTF once Gave me in writing with regards to marks.

    "If you want to place your PRIMARY emphasis on marking (and remember it is OK to emphasize other qualities, as long as you are aware that is what you are doing), Then,,,

    A. Dog should see the gun
    B. Dog should see the bird
    C. Consider the small dog
    D. A & B are difficult when:
    1. Dog never has a chance to get set (e.g. a walk up)
    2. Birds are called to quickly
    3. Sun is in the dogs eyes
    4. BACKGROUND FOR GUN IS POOR
    5. BACKGROUND FOR BIRD IS POOR
    6. There is something that distracts the dogs from seeing the gun or bird (e.g. Close in flyer)

    Understand the impact of D1- D6 on your testing of dogs marking.



    Gooser thinks this information above is KEY,, if you ARE REALLY TESTING A DOGS MARKING ABILITY.

    IMHO,, If you drift away from these basics,, the more you drift,, the less you are testing marking,,but something else,, and I for one,, dont know what you call it.. but it isnt Marking...




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    Quote Originally Posted by MooseGooser View Post
    I was strictly talking AKC hunt tests.

    I have been really surprised how similar the more recent tests I have seen are to ( god help me) HRC.

    Back when I was younger , an AKC set of judges wanted a person who could throw! They had to have an arm! I know for a fact , that Lainee is about to fall of the sofa laughing, but Gooser was asked often to throw for Master, cause I had an arm!

    They wanted(demanded) the dog SEE the bird! They got his attention first with a call , or Bubba yellin "there goes one" then they shot the bird at the top of a very high arching throw.

    They threw a dog a MARK!!!!!

    They had me out in the open with a chair and bag of birds. I was dressed in Camo most of the time, at least a drab color, and the Judge wanted that bird thrown high in the air, and have it fall in the exact same place each time. Ya hadn't better frock up the throw either!

    Most always, you would then sit down in your chair and watch the dog work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MooseGooser View Post
    Back in those days. I dont ever recall witnessing a 35 yrd mark at any test level.

    Most were pushing the distance in the rule book ,,100 yrds
    Gooser got out his fish measuring stick again...lol.. It was "this big!" hahahaa..

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    Quote Originally Posted by MooseGooser View Post
    I was strictly talking AKC hunt tests.

    I have been really surprised how similar the more recent tests I have seen are to ( god help me) HRC.

    Back when I was younger , an AKC set of judges wanted a person who could throw! They had to have an arm! I know for a fact , that Lainee is about to fall of the sofa laughing, but Gooser was asked often to throw for Master, cause I had an arm!

    They wanted(demanded) the dog SEE the bird! They got his attention first with a call , or Bubba yellin "there goes one" then they shot the bird at the top of a very high arching throw.

    They threw a dog a MARK!!!!!

    They had me out in the open with a chair and bag of birds. I was dressed in Camo most of the time, at least a drab color, and the Judge wanted that bird thrown high in the air, and have it fall in the exact same place each time. Ya hadn't better frock up the throw either!

    Most always, you would then sit down in your chair and watch the dog work.

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    Ya both suck!


    Yes I will be there Saturday,, but I gota cold,,,, I cant throw,, or shoot,, or sit near anyone.... Ya'll will have a good day!
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    I have gone by "Gooser" since I was a "gossling"

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    I swear they all show up on training days just to watch Gooser screw up,, miss shots,, loose his temper,, and basically whine about everything..



    OHHHHHH and lets not forget.......... Get his arse chewed!
    It is far easier to spit on the work of others than it is to produce something better yourself.
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    HRCH Calypso Seven Bales High SH (Bailey)
    HR Calypso Zoomin Loosies Mad Hader (Maddi) We loved you baby. R.I.P.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MooseGooser View Post
    I swear they all show up on training days just to watch Gooser screw up,, miss shots,, loose his temper,, and basically whine about everything..



    OHHHHHH and lets not forget.......... Get his arse chewed!
    Not this weekend! Bring your Yote setup, I want to see it.
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