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    Default Capital Hill Exemptions from O-care

    http://nationalreview.com/article/36...care-john-fund

    Did we forget about this so soon?

    It's worth noting that even when the staff goes onto the exchanges they'll still get a subsidy that the rest of Americans, of similar high incomes, will not be getting.

    The article makes no mention of which Congress-critters will take their chances on the exchanges with, or without, a govt subsidy.

    We should all be remembering this in 2014 and 2016 ... who is, and who is not, willing to participate in the laws THEY foist upon the rest of us.
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    To put it nicely, this whole story is horse dung. Please read this story carefully, I hope it sinks in.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...rom-obamacare/
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    Buzz, thank you for the clarification.

    As I read the article, the law said (per the amendment that was approved by the Ds) that these people had to go into the exchanges. Their present health plan would be terminated, and they would go into exchange plans. Since they hadn't read the law very well, in their haste, they overlooked the fact that there was no provision for employer subsidies in the exchanges (and these particular people exceed the income limits for the subsidies that would otherwise apply).

    So, then the Office of Personnel Management gets to interpret the law. Is there something in the law that allows them to do so? I thought the authority for regs for the law were vested in the HHS Secretary. (It seems I've also read that IRS is making some interpretations of its own in doing their part in the law).

    Some of these staffers likely wrote some of this law, and some may have been responsible for keeping their Congress-critter advised of what was in the law. Seems these very bright people whom we're afraid of losing missed this amendment?

    If they didn't miss it, then the Ds were, perhaps, embarrassed to turn it down, as the article says:
    The purpose of the amendment was to embarrass the Democrats. But in a bit of jujitsu of which they were inordinately proud, Democrats instead embraced the amendment and added it to the law.
    Had the Ds stripped the amendment it would have demonstrated that Beltway inhabitants were not willing to take the same "risk" with the new law as the rest of us would. It would have appeared to the public that they wanted to retain their "elite" status of a Cadillac health plan, which costs others of similar income a bunch (and even a tax added to those plans for being too good).

    The article states:
    This isn't, in other words, an effort to flee Obamacare. It's an effort to fix a drafting error that prevents the federal government from paying into insurance exchanges on behalf of congressional staffers who got caught up in a political controversy.
    So, the fellas who wrote the law were even confused by how it was supposed to work? It was a "drafting error". They decided to put Congress & staffers into the exchanges, but didn't realize that large employers weren't going to be able to do that until 2017. Oops ...

    This is the problem with legislation this massive, nobody understands what they are voting for ... maybe just once they ought to pay something for their incompetence?

    This is similar to Sebelius' statement that it was the insurance companies who cancelled people's insurance ... except the insurors HAD to cancel those policies because the law did not allow them to continue those policies. Catch 22. Once they had to change them, they were no longer grandfathered. The "grandfathering" was narrowly interpreted by virtue of the law itself.

    Somehow, with all the perks available, to these "poor" guys and gals making only $60-70K a year; or Congress-critters making only $175K+/year, I don't see a "brain drain" in the future. Actually, even with all the great benefits they have now, they aren't performing that great. Maybe Buckley was right about the first 2000 names in the Boston phone book could do as well? And we know full well that people like Reid and Pelosi (and probably several others) have become very wealthy through their insider trading, $11,000 in lost subsidy is not going to break their bank.
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    The subsidy is part of their pay package and does not seem out of line with what employer contributions would be in the private sector. The idea was to have them participate in the exchanges, not to cut earned benefits. There are a lot of people below the higher paid lawmakers that will be affected by this also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Henlee View Post
    The subsidy is part of their pay package and does not seem out of line with what employer contributions would be in the private sector. The idea was to have them participate in the exchanges, not to cut earned benefits. There are a lot of people below the higher paid lawmakers that will be affected by this also.
    Yes that's true. But there are vindictive folks who would take pleasure at their misfortune regardless if they are responsible for the cluster #$%@ or not.
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    How about just the concept of accountability or competence? They wrote it. They voted for it. They could have stripped the amendment.
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