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    "I don't believe there should be any restrictions when it comes to firearms. None." Gary Johnson
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    "Every single figure on Mount Rushmore was a third party at one time or another, so third parties become major parties, and I think that the Libertarian Party will become the next major party." Gary Johnson





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    Love it ! "Lifted" it for sharing with friends and family.
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    And when lobbyists retire they get another job as an "adivsor" to a high-ranking official, or even the POTUS
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    Where is the Lobbyist Reform we were promised in 2007 by Obama? In my book, the only way to reform lobbying is to ban them altogether!
    "I don't believe there should be any restrictions when it comes to firearms. None." Gary Johnson
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    "Every single figure on Mount Rushmore was a third party at one time or another, so third parties become major parties, and I think that the Libertarian Party will become the next major party." Gary Johnson





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    SCOTUS has already decided that corporations are people with certain unalienable rights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Henlee View Post
    SCOTUS has already decided that corporations are people with certain unalienable rights.
    However, Obama in 2007 promised to clean up the Lobbying industry and has done nothing about it. Possibly, they were his main source of contributions so, he just said what sounded good but really had no intentions of taking them on. I understand the ruling by SCOTUS but, it doesn't give a clear path to buying influence from Federally elected politicians. Influence buying is why the IRS Tax Code(74,000 pages) is so cumbersome, long and corrupt!
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    "I don't believe there should be any restrictions when it comes to firearms. None." Gary Johnson
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    "Every single figure on Mount Rushmore was a third party at one time or another, so third parties become major parties, and I think that the Libertarian Party will become the next major party." Gary Johnson





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    Here's another form of influence buying.
    http://www.nola.com/politics/index.s...rt_maj-story-2
    "I don't believe there should be any restrictions when it comes to firearms. None." Gary Johnson
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    "Every single figure on Mount Rushmore was a third party at one time or another, so third parties become major parties, and I think that the Libertarian Party will become the next major party." Gary Johnson





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    I understand the ruling by SCOTUS but, it doesn't give a clear path to buying influence from Federally elected politicians.

    It does. If you look the citizens united ruling also, you will come to realize that there is no longer a method of controlling them either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Henlee View Post
    SCOTUS has already decided that corporations are people with certain unalienable rights.
    Explain please - don't forget to include how having a corporation contribute to a campaign is different than having a large union buy a politician.

    Quote Originally Posted by Franco View Post
    Here's another form of influence buying.
    http://www.nola.com/politics/index.s...rt_maj-story-2
    What are you saying Franco? I thought you liked Jindal? Is there evidence of wrongdoing on the part of the appointees Or are they unqualified to sit on these various boards?

    Jindal is on my short list for potential POTUS. I have always liked him, but if he's a crook then that changes.
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    Explain please - don't forget to include how having a corporation contribute to a campaign is different than having a large union buy a politician. It is not different. however I don't believe unions were giving the same personhood as corporations and can be regulated. I am not a hundred percent on that and will look it up later, but that is my understanding. Either way though money has destroyed the system.
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