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    My lab is 5 months.I'm sure I should work my retriever daily but should it only be about 10 to 15 throws?Also he's kind of not really motivated unless food is involved with his commands. I was thinking if he knows commands when I have food and does everything almost immediately should I start him on an e-collar now to set in motivation to where he is compliant with his commands just like with the treats? Any advice would be appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigcasinoGator View Post
    My lab is 5 months.I'm sure I should work my retriever daily but should it only be about 10 to 15 throws?Also he's kind of not really motivated unless food is involved with his commands. I was thinking if he knows commands when I have food and does everything almost immediately should I start him on an e-collar now to set in motivation to where he is compliant with his commands just like with the treats? Any advice would be appreciated.
    When did you get this pup? Bond is so important right now. When you have trust, then start in small steps.
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    I've had him since 8 weeks. He's pretty attached to me. He listens to only me in the house and especially if I have treats. It's just frustrating he so smart to know when he has a incentive or not. I was just asking because he's my first duck dog and I have to train him myself. I think he's doing well but gaining an opinion on what HE wants to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigcasinoGator View Post
    I've had him since 8 weeks. He's pretty attached to me. He listens to only me in the house and especially if I have treats. It's just frustrating he so smart to know when he has a incentive or not. I was just asking because he's my first duck dog and I have to train him myself. I think he's doing well but gaining an opinion on what HE wants to do.
    Remember...they are dogs....they are intune to you better than you. It's want you want to do, but to get there you need to understand your pup. They will follow your lead.

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    I0 t0 15 throws is a lot with a young pup. If it were mine I would throw 3 and put him away wanting more. if you want to throw that many do it 5 times a day. 10 to 15 minute sessions is all a dog need to become a great duck doh. If you don't have a program, get one and join a club where you can get help.
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    Rats. These thread titles need to be more specific.

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    I would not throw that many bumpers for the pup. So it keep it's I want more drive. On puppy I do 3-5 bumper throws. Then put in kennel or crate so it can absorb what it just did. Then get it out an do here, sit and heal drills. With happy bumper before drills and after drills. I stopped using treats as soon as I saw my pup understood the command. Then used treat to get back on right track if needed. At this point puppy would be 16 to 24 weeks old or older. Then added light pressure with command like pinch collar on lead for here command. An if need be give treat with good response on here with pressure. Light pressure with choke collar pulling up on sit an add later with tap on rump with heal stick. Just keep it light pressure for quite few sessions. The pup has understand to get out of pressure to do the command. Once pup understands an I mean UNDERSTANDS pressure. Then you can start adding E-collar pressure. Example do command with just heal stick and pinch collar on sit just to make command is done with proper response then follow that same command with just E-collar on low setting. An just build from there. But remember to give vocal praise and a pet on head just so it knows it's response was correct. An as stated above me. Keep it fun in there also. Give a happy bumper at start of session an finish with one. An as I said above put in kennel or crate after training so it absorbs it training. That was a big thing I learned from Pro friend of mind. Let them absorb the training instead of running lose in back yard or play with kids etc. It's you first duck dog so your learn as it's learning. Have fun an enjoy the whole process. Good luck an just keep asking when you need help.

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    Sounds like your dog is getting to many retrieves and is bored. And every day at this age may not be good. You might try 3-5 tosses every other day. Suggest you get Hillmans Training a Retriever Puppy.
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    Put away the treats and start on a proven puppy program. Highly recommend Hillmans training a retriever puppy.

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