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    By Janice Shaw Crouse Charlotte Hays' book comes out this week, but I read an early release on Kindle, and it was delightful! Her hilarious comparisons of Old White Trash vs. New White Trash are very entertaining for a Southern-raised lady like me! She traces the spread of White Trash into the mainstream of American culture as the old forms of etiquette gave way to the "anything goes" lifestyles of today. The ultimate wedding gift when I got married, for instance, was silver serving ware; now those tarnished treasures can be bought for cheap prices in thrift stores, because nobody wants to spend the time polishing silver bowls, creamers, or pitchers and, for today's generation, the idea of actually serving tea from a silver tea service or setting a table with multiple choices of eating utensils is laughable. Indeed, I laughed my way through much of the book, except when I was awed by the truthful and penetrating insights that fill every chapter. For instance, a major theme of the book is: "Society crumbles when it takes cues from the underclass." Hays points out all the negative trends that are now mainstream that started among the lower classes. Baggy pants on young men are a version of prison garb - an upward trend moving from the ghetto to the Ivy League. Unwed pregnancy, poor grooming, not working - these were characteristics of trashy people, the old White Trash. The bottom line, for Hays, is that White Trash is the new normal. She is astounded that the television reality show, Honey Boo Boo, attracted more viewers than the GOP convention in 2012. And, it's not just television that has disintegrated; today's table manners, dress, self-restraint, and spending attitudes are all based on values and customs of the lower classes, rather than the "stuffy" elites. Hays has special scorn for tattoos and for self-expression that has degenerated into a stripper mentality and daytime television with steamy scenes and foul language that will curl your hair. Hays reiterates a common White Trash motto: "Hit don't make no difference" which encapsulates an attitude of complacency rather than aspiration. Nothing is worth the discipline it takes to master a skill or reach a goal. Instead of white gloves and a hat for church on Sunday, "hit don't make no difference," just wear jeans or sweat pants. Hays clearly shows that "class" is not a matter of money; being White Trash is purely behavioral and can be spotted in the wealthy as often as among the poor, and it's obvious that trashiness has spread throughout American culture. Charlotte Hays' book, "When Did White Trash Become the New Normal? A Southern Lady Asks the Impertinent Question," (Regnery Publishing), will be out this week. Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2013/11/the_white_trash_world_we_live_in.html#ixzz2jsFDoqk Y Follow us: @AmericanThinker on Twitter | AmericanThinker on Facebook
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    Sorry about the lack of formatting; went back and tried to add paragraph breaks but either my computer or this forum program makes editing things you cut/paste impossible. Curious what others think about this trend (especially those in my age group, baby boomers!)
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    having spent a good deal of my adult life being in the night club business as a bartender and eventually a manager, I look at the fashion trends and just shake my head, the gals actually try and dress like cheap street walking working girls, the white girls are trying to emulate the black girls, and the black gals are dying their hair blonde, dont get me wrong, no one, I repeat, no one, loves the classic feminine style more than I...but trash is trash

    here in Vegas style is out the window..used to be when I came here back in the late 70's men wore coat and ties or even suits to the casinos, you wear a suit in a casino now and someone will think you are the pit boss or the floor manager

    in the field trial world Mr Schomer would tell us stories of how the Murnane's and the Wallace's would show up to the FT's in coat/tie,and Mr Schomer's job was to walk behind them holding a folding chair/stool until they decided where they wanted to sit, and then he would unfold the chair and dust off the seat and sometimes hold an umbrella or some other shade for the wealthy blue bloods, until it was time for him to run one of their dogs. could you picture ANY pro doing that in modern times
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    I love looking at the old field trial photos of the people in their sporting attire, but you're right Bon, I cannot imagine any pro today acting like nor being treated like a servant. But it's disconcerting to see how even nice young people today think it's OK to dress and act like sluts and convicts.
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    France had something like this happen too,, right before the peasants rose up and cut off the royalties heads. I guess which side of the tracks you were born on would influence how you feel about it. One way to look at it is it is proof that our economic system is working the way it should. It offers upward mobility to all, style dose not have to change with ones pocket book.

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    If you have not seen the movie Idiocracy, it is worth a watch just to put some humor on what is happening:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBvIweCIgwk

    Even duck hunting has been taken over by do-rags and holding your gun backwards, sideways or whatever they do now. The bad boy culture driven by wannabe's is here to stay in almost everything I can think of. I wonder what the old folks were thinking when the baby boomers thought being a hippie was cool?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Julie R. View Post
    Sorry about the lack of formatting; went back and tried to add paragraph breaks but either my computer or this forum program makes editing things you cut/paste impossible. Curious what others think about this trend (especially those in my age group, baby boomers!)
    Miss Julie I agree 100%. And it is not just in ones dress we see this "white trash" mentality. Our very own Potus Place often shows a lack of upbringing and reflects the current nationwide lack of respect for a person whos has a differing point of view.

    Civil debate, proper dress and manners are things that are doable across all socio-economic ranges. We just need to insist on them again, and that starts with our own children.

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    I think the mistake is in the title. Like some above have said, trash is trash, regardless of color. The decision to use white trash makes me wonder if it doesn't tie in to "white guilt"?
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    "Honey Boo Boo, attracted more viewers than the GOP convention in 2012."

    Now I can't get Honey Boo Boo and Chris Christie out of my mind!

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    I read that article, too, Julie, and was nodding in agreement with the book's perspective.

    What is so wrong with being polite? I think that national figures set a standard for our society. I think about the football player who has fathered 5 (or 7?) children, and is so out of touch with those children that one of them gets killed by a screwball living with the baby's mother. What of the other children? Does he support them financially? Is he there in their lives to raise them? On 2nd thought, maybe they're better off without his lifestyle influence. It seems clear that fatherless homes are not exclusive to welfare households. Talk about a war on women. This guy just dumps the kids on the mothers, or maybe gives some of them money for an abortion. Mike Vick (however rightfully) was a major villain for dog fighting. This guy lets his children out loose in the dangerous world, and after he scores big on the football field, we have forgotten all about the child that died from his promiscuous lifestyle. Simultaneously, the media makes fun of Tebow's lifestyle choice. Is this Alice in Wonderland, or what?

    This will sound prudish ... so be it. I love watching Friends and Will and Grace. They are hysterical. After a while I noticed that both shows feature people jumping in and out of bed with multiple partners without any concern. Mixed in with the humor, this makes it appear that this is "the norm". These were prime time shows. What kind of mentality does that establish in the young people watching this? Basically, that sexual relationships are just general "recreation", just like going to a movie? Then we are surprised that teen pregnancies are common? Well, less common now that contraception and abortion are readily available.

    That doesn't mean there aren't good arguments for contraception and some abortions, but without the guidance of some moral structure, we begin to lose what makes humans different from non-sensient animals. Human children need many more years of "protection" by their parents than other animals. It is a physiological fact that cannot be denied. Maturation of humans is a meld of both innate and learned behaviors. The fabric of a caring society has a lot to do with the learned behaviors.

    Are we then surprised that Hillary can shreak, "What difference does it make?" Look at her life ... no accountability has been a way of life for her and slick Willie. And it goes on as she becomes a front-runner for POTUS candidate. What does this say about what has happened to the value of truth and integrity in our society?

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