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    Default Rowdy (by Pirate) Intro to poison birds

    I reread Lardy's RJ article on Guidelines for Poison Birds. Some highlights:
    Start out using bumpers
    The blind should be known (pattern blind) and outside the mark
    Bring the dog to the line, say "no bird"
    Launch
    Step back and heel dog on opposite side
    Say "dead bird"
    Send dog for blind
    Don't call back for a poor line
    No collar pressure, just attrition
    Don't pick up the poison bird if the blind is a struggle
    If the dog does good then pick up the poison bird
    Say "mark" when lining up for the poison bird
    No factors

    Today the wind was very light blowing right to left a bit. The Bumper Boy with a white stickman was at 175 yds throwing left to right. The blind was 200 yds.

    So here's Rowdy



    http://s868.photobucket.com/user/way...74163.mp4.html

    Rowdy had done this blind earlier in the week. He had a hook but I was letting him roll as long as he wasn't sucking to the poison bird.
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    Very nice! I like how calm and in control he is coming to the line.
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    Wayne : I only have two comments/criticisms...We use "Leave It " because "No Bird" is close to "Dead Bird",

    and when picking up the Poison bird, If you say "mark", there is nothing to mark, its already been thrown...Very Very rarely pick up the Poison bird, because you already told the dog to disregard the bird and now you want them to pick it up...When we worked on Sophie and diversions she learned that the poison bird was NEVER an option, which made it easier to turn away from it and concentrate on the blind..

    If the test calls for running the blind first and THEN picking up the mark,we will show her the mark,pivot,tell her to "dead bird" run the blind,but line up for the mark on her return so she knows that she will get to pick it up 2nd

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    Bon, I hear you. But the program is Lardy's and I'm not smart enough or good enough a trainer to deviate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BonMallari View Post
    Wayne : I only have two comments/criticisms...We use "Leave It " because "No Bird" is close to "Dead Bird", and when picking up the Poison bird, If you say "mark", there is nothing to mark, its already been thrown...Very Very rarely pick up the Poison bird, because you already told the dog to disregard the bird and now you want them to pick it up...When we worked on Sophie and diversions she learned that the poison bird was NEVER an option, which made it easier to turn away from it and concentrate on the blind.. If the test calls for running the blind first and THEN picking up the mark,we will show her the mark,pivot,tell her to "dead bird" run the blind,but line up for the mark on her return so she knows that she will get to pick it up 2nd my .02 YMMV
    I'll have to respectfully disagree. Most of the successful trainers I know pick up the poison bird unless they have a huge battle.

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