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    get a gun that comes up easy!! If you have to work at getting it to your shoulder you won't like it, don't forget you will be wearing a bunch of clothes in the field too
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    My opinion would be to go with the "heavier" 870 Express Magnum. As others have stated, the versatility of changeable chokes is a good benefit. The extra weight will help tame the recoil of heavier loads that are often associated with waterfowl hunting. And, if you need any adjustments or work done on it, I know of an armorer that can work on it for you when you come the Kansas City HRC test (he exchanges work for cheap booze). Hope this helps
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    Another thing to consider is the age of gun 1. Is it too old to safely shoot modern non-toxic shot at modern pressures?

    Interchangeable chokes are a plus, and stocks can be adjusted (swapped out/cut down) for shorter length of pull.

    If it were me, and these were my only options, I'd go with gun 2 and scrape some $ together for a new stock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 6x6Bulls View Post
    Depends what you are hunting. If you are planning to hunt ducks and geese, gun 1 wont do. I would go with your gut.
    Depends; I used a 2 3/4" 12ga 870 TB from 1968 - 1994 for duck and goose. Now I have a 3" but I shoot 2-3/4" about half the time. My hunting buddy shoots a 20 ga. We mostly shoot devoting bird, but some passing shots out to 40-45 yards.

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    Any good friends you could get a loaner from, guns tend to be like oatmeal-raisin cookies, can't just have one. Might let you figure out what you really want vs what you think you want. My back up gun is a Ted Willams, older than me but still goes bang!

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    Your Express gun has a shorter stock if I am not mistaken. Check the stock specs. Shorter by 1/4 inch? Also, the wood I believe may be different, not walnut. Translation: Different balance in the gun. I don't know what your shooting skills are like but my thoughts are like John Robinson's thoughts. And there is nothing wrong with fixed chokes. In fact, I prefer fixed chokes for a lot of reasons.

    I own two 870's. The older one is 28" modified which I ordered from Remington over 30 years ago, the factory barrel was 30" but I had Remington cut it. The gun is called 870 Magnum, chambered for 2 3/4 and 3 inch shells. My preference is 2 3/4 inch. My opinion: If you want dead birds, make head shots. You do that and you won't need 3" shells. Besides, shooting 3" shells will lead to you developing a flinch which you don't need.

    My opinion on Mossberg: I shoot a Mossberg 835 ultimag. The Mossberg 500 gun is built to military specs and I expect the same quality in the 835. Like any pump gun I had to break it in. Once you break it in, everything goes smoother. The action on my old 870 is like butter but it didn't come like that. And who cares about the sound of the pump. The shot travels faster than the sound.
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    Anybody that shoots 3.5" 12 ga shells twice from a fixed breech shotgun, is completely nuts.

    They probably got brain damage the first time.
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    BTW, since nobody else mentioned it, you can't shoot steel shot through an old fixed choke barrel.

    It will permanently bulge a ring in the barrel.

    I'd advise that you get a gas-operated auto like a Remington 1100, 11-87, or Beretta 390/3901.

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    I don't know about that, copterdoc. I have only shot steel through my gun and it has no barrel bulge. I have a modified choke and the gun I believe was marketed as a waterfowl gun, hence the 30" barrel and I think there was a 32" option. I bought that gun the year that steel shot became mandatory for use in the section of Great south Bay that I was shooting.
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    I didn't just make it up. It's common knowledge that you don't shoot steel shot through old fixed choke barrels.
    If you got away with it,,,,,,,,,, great.
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