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    Default Heeling on both sides during hunting?

    I understand how it can help a dog that runs tests or trials to let a dog know which side of the gun the mark is on but was wondering about hunting or is it really just for test and trials?

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    Lets say you're hunting with another that dog that is left sided only, that dog, and handler, is on the left side of the setup, usually the other dog/handler will be on the right side, is it advantageous to have your dog on the right side of you to mark birds on your and the spreads right side, or is on your left side good enough? Thats for you to decide. For me, a couple three days of training right sided heeling is well worth the payoff.
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    A dog doesn't need to heel at all for hunting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by copterdoc View Post
    A dog doesn't need to heel at all for hunting.
    Well there are a lot of people who jump shoot ducks and if the dog is ranging way out in front of the hunter. Im thinking a good many shots wont be made because the dog blows them out before the shooter has time to shoulder the gun, the birds will be out of range. So in this case having a dog walking at heel would be advantageous. For two reasons more likely to mark the downed bird and the previously mentioned not blowing out your quarry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thelast2 View Post
    Well there are a lot of people who jump shoot ducks and if the dog is ranging way out in front of the hunter. Im thinking a good many shots wont be made because the dog blows them out before the shooter has time to shoulder the gun, the birds will be out of range. So in this case having a dog walking at heel would be advantageous. For two reasons more likely to mark the downed bird and the previously mentioned not blowing out your quarry.
    Right.
    But, it still doesn't need to heel. And certainly not on both sides.

    Much ado about not much.

    A hunting dog needs to know whoa, sit, stay, place, or kennel. Any one of those, will keep the dog steady for whatever it needs to be steady for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by copterdoc View Post
    Right.
    But, it still doesn't need to heel. And certainly not on both sides.

    Much ado about not much.

    A hunting dog needs to know whoa, sit, stay, place, or kennel. Any one of those, will keep the dog steady for whatever it needs to be steady for.
    I sort of get what you're saying, but in a jump shoot situation where I'm sneaking up on some ducks I spotted from a ways off. I walk up stooped over with my dog at heel. I'm right handed so I heel my dog on my left side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by copterdoc View Post
    Right.
    But, it still doesn't need to heel. And certainly not on both sides.

    Much ado about not much.

    A hunting dog needs to know whoa, sit, stay, place, or kennel. Any one of those, will keep the dog steady for whatever it needs to be steady for.
    Each to there own I suppose, the bottom line is being abe to keep the dog steady. The commands whoa and stay aren't in the vocabulary of any the folks I run with. The command stay has albeit gone by the wayside as an unneeded word. I understand whoa as it used with pointing dogs
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    Our eldest is single-sided, the next dog into the house was trained to both sides and every dog since then has been double sided. You can argue the pros or cons about it not being needed for a gun dog, but for the little bit of time in extra training it takes when you are teaching heeling anyway ... I like the advantage of having "other side heeling" in my "pocket" if I need it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Snows View Post
    Our eldest is single-sided, the next dog into the house was trained to both sides and every dog since then has been double sided. You can argue the pros or cons about it not being needed for a gun dog, but for the little bit of time in extra training it takes when you are teaching heeling anyway ... I like the advantage of having "other side heeling" in my "pocket" if I need it!
    Agree with this statement. Two sided heeling is advantageous in certain situations. Control is important you are using a gun and I don't want my dog causing any issues.
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    When hunting the exit door from a blind can be on either side. The dog will set and watch from the appropriate
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