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    Default Reloading 2 3/4 steal shot ?'s

    Does anyone have any experience with reloading the 2 3/4 steal loads? Can you work up an optimum load specific to the gun, like you can with rifle reloads? Now with a youthin slinging steal ,my shell expense is raising. My father in law has a reloading set that will reload up to 2 3/4 loads. Is it cost comparable to buying medium price range loads? Can you get the same performance in comparison to 3" loads? Any info would be great,just looking for options and my son and I are enjoying working up and reloading our rifle loads,so it would be a nice off season hobby to work up some dependable loads and save some $$
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    all reloading data is based on the brand and type of powder you use and the hull you shoot it out of

    try using this chart and plug in the different components until you find a "recipe" you like and can duplicate EXACTLY...do not substitute components If it calls for a Winchester 209 primer then you must use a Winchester brand , even though a Remington,CCI or Federal primer fits

    http://data.hodgdon.com/shotshell_load.asp
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    Better yet, before you buy the different powders, wads, shot etc, pattern your gun to find the load you like from the various commercial loads available. THEN find its recipe in the loading data sheets of the released brand data available. All of the components are important to a specific load; the hull, the wad, the powder, the shot, even the primer and crimp pressure have an affect on the performance of a specific load. But yes, you can find and then reload effective 2 3/4 steel loads.
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    My gun does well with the Fiocci (sp) 3" shells #3 shot ,but how do I convert that to 2 3/4" loads?
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    Quote Originally Posted by shawninthesticks View Post
    My gun does well with the Fiocci (sp) 3" shells #3 shot ,but how do I convert that to 2 3/4" loads?
    You try and find a load that most resembles the FPS of the Fiocchi shell you currently use say 1350 FPS

    However you wont find that recipe in a 2.75 load because the hull most likely will not accommodate the internal pressure for those ballistics, you might get a Remington Nitro 27 hull to 1300 FPS but not a pound more
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    Quote Originally Posted by shawninthesticks View Post
    My gun does well with the Fiocci (sp) 3" shells #3 shot ,but how do I convert that to 2 3/4" loads?
    Does Fiocci offer a similar 2 3/4 load? If so start with that recipe. If not, use the Fiocci components (for a 2 3/4 load) and determine an equivalent competitor recipe to start your evaluation. Or you may want to inquire directly with a technical load specialist at Fiocci. But you should not assume a 3" load you like will be one you like in 2 3/4. Years ago when there was very limited steel loading data (& components) I talked with a Remington engineer and found him to be extremely forthcoming about reloading a Remington steel load I liked. I just started by contacting Remington & eventually would up with an "expert" who was more than willing to share data.
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    My reloading experience is with lead. Bon is correct that pressure will likely be an issue to push the same velocity. I like Granddaddy's suggestion. I wish I did that myself when I started to find the best load for my guns. Try a few 2-3/4' loads and see what works then go from there. I don't vary from what the reloading manuals say regarding components other than reducing the powder a little, not much, to see if it helps. Like center fire guns faster isn't always better.

    That said the same load is not optimal in all my shotguns.
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    Here is a steel shot manual: http://www.ballisticproducts.com/Sta...info/00MSTEEL/

    While I have not reloaded any steel I have heard good reports about fast loads above 1500 fps.

    Most that reload steel shot use a dedicated reloader for it.

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    Fiocchi non tox load is called a Tundra it delivers a 3in shell with a 1 3/8 oz payload of #2 @ 1350 FPS

    according to Hodgdon the most you will get out of a Fiocchi 2.75 hull is 1300 FPS but with only 1 oz of steel, and that is with 23 grains of Universal Clays powder...you shoot a dozen of those and you might feel like Manny Paquiao has hit your cheek 12 times

    unless you are a regular reloader of non tox shells, IT IS NOT cost effective..ask Moosegooser, he reloads more than I used to... you might be best served by buying a case of quality non tox shells instead of buying all the components to load those same 250 shells...
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    Years ago I reloaded using the "Status of Steel" manual. The loads I used were 3 1/2" and much faster than any available commercial shells. They were devastating on ducks. I simply do not have the time to reload anymore.

    The 2 3/4" loads will be effective also. I feel you can replicate the velocity of your 3" commercial loads but will most likely be shooting less steel.
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