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    If you listened to the interview of Dr. Emanuel by Megan Kelly, you should realize that there was a deal between the insurance companies and the President. In order to make the numbers work for the exchanges, those people with individual policies(junk policies they call them), had to be included in the exchanges. That was a requirement of the insurance companies to participate in the exchanges. This deal HADTO BE DONE even Obama Care was passed. Now that the President has backed out of the deal, the insurance companies are screaming. It remains to be seen whether they now back out of participating in the exchanges at all. Does anyone really believe the insurance companies will commit to a rate when they have no idea who will be in the pool or what the subsidies will be. Do you think the insurance companies will ever trust the President again?

    What can we expect? More chaos, fear, uncertainty, and fear. We must b prepared for it.

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    Like most "feel good" laws that Congress passes, their solutions often make the problem worse. Just another good reason the government needs to stay out of what the Private Sector does better. Insurance companies need to be made competitive and a return to the pre PPO HMO days is the ticket!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Franco View Post
    Like most "feel good" laws that Congress passes, their solutions often make the problem worse. Just another good reason the government needs to stay out of what the Private Sector does better. Insurance companies need to be made competitive and a return to the pre PPO HMO days is the ticket!
    YOU GOT THAT RIGHT FRANCO!!

    I just watched again part of the President's news conference. When ask if he had been told that the insurance companies would cancel these policies, his response was, "I was not DIRECTLY told that they would be canceled". I will leave it for you to decide whether he was told INDIRECTLY, whatever difference that makes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franco View Post
    Like most "feel good" laws that Congress passes, their solutions often make the problem worse. Just another good reason the government needs to stay out of what the Private Sector does better. Insurance companies need to be made competitive and a return to the pre PPO HMO days is the ticket!
    I hope you pass this comment on to the senator from your state that voted for this law . Maybe even go so far as to suggest that your support is conditional upon her ability to get it fixed .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marvin S View Post
    I hope you pass this comment on to the senator from your state that voted for this law . Maybe even go so far as to suggest that your support is conditional upon her ability to get it fixed .
    I have already emailed her though I don't think any of them read their emails or letters. I expect her to lose her seat at the mid-terms even though her (R) challenger is weak at best. Much will depend on how much oil money she receives for her campaign as the oil companies view her as their biggest ally on the hill. "U.S. Senate Committee on Energy & Natural Resources
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    Energy and Natural Resources Committee handles issues ranging from offshore drilling and revenue sharing to nuclear power generation and the creation of national parks. From her seat on the Energy Committee, Senator Landrieu successfully passed the landmark Gulf of Mexico Energy Security Act which opened up more than 8 million acres of the Gulf of Mexico to energy exploration and, for the first time, granted Louisiana and other Gulf states who allow offshore drilling a 37.5% revenue share. Those funds will be used exclusively for coastal restoration, infrastructure and hurricane protection along the Gulf Coast – an area suffering from devastating erosion at the rate of 25 square miles of land each year – or about one acre every 33 minutes. Today, Senator Landrieu continues to use her seat on this committee to push the United States closer to energy independence and to promote the development of clean domestic fuels." Energy is the Ying to her Healthcare Yang.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marvin S View Post
    I hope you pass this comment on to the senator from your state that voted for this law . Maybe even go so far as to suggest that your support is conditional upon her ability to get it fixed .
    Politicians LOOOOVE one issue voters......easy to manipulate, just tell them what they want to hear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paul young View Post
    Politicians LOOOOVE one issue voters......easy to manipulate, just tell them what they want to hear.
    So VERY true

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    Quote Originally Posted by caryalsobrook View Post
    If you listened to the interview of Dr. Emanuel by Megan Kelly, you should realize that there was a deal between the insurance companies and the President. In order to make the numbers work for the exchanges, those people with individual policies(junk policies they call them), had to be included in the exchanges. That was a requirement of the insurance companies to participate in the exchanges. This deal HADTO BE DONE even Obama Care was passed. Now that the President has backed out of the deal, the insurance companies are screaming. It remains to be seen whether they now back out of participating in the exchanges at all. Does anyone really believe the insurance companies will commit to a rate when they have no idea who will be in the pool or what the subsidies will be. Do you think the insurance companies will ever trust the President again?

    What can we expect? More chaos, fear, uncertainty, and fear. We must b prepared for it.
    Also a factor, of course, was the "carrot" of getting many more insureds that were young and healthy (via the tax on those who didn't have insurance). Everyone knew that those old individual policies would never meet the requirements of the bureaucratic agenda, and would HAVE to be changed. There may have been some few of them that already had most of the requirements, but probably not many. It's possible nobody had child dental coverage, but might have had such coverage through separate dental insurance.

    Another one of the crony deals that Obama cut to get what he wanted. Eventually, maybe, some of the special interests will figure out that most politicians won't hesitate to throw any group or individual under the bus once they have outlived their usefulness.
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    Still waiting for someone to comment on the word "directly" when said nobody told him. I don't think the word was used casually.

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    The changes made by the president are an attempt to turn the blame back on the insurance companies. Most will be unlikely to reinstate the cancelled policies if they are able to. Most state insurance commisions will not have the time to approve these 'new' plans.

    If this does go through what is going to happen next year when these plans disappear again?

    And, what is going to hsppen when the employer mandate kicks in? As Yogi Berra would say, It is deja vu all over again!"

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