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    It was already reported that a major contractor for this website was a crony of Michelle Obama from college.

    It seems that HHS could hardly have found more unsavory contractors for this windfall of $600 million. This article from Daily Caller notes not just incompetence, but downright criminal behavior of one of the subconstractors selected (not just by healthcare.gov but also for other state projects related to healthcare)

    http://dailycaller.com/2013/11/22/su...investigation/

    CNSI is currently under investigation by the FBI, which has alleged that then-Louisiana Health and Hospitals Secretary Bruce Greenstein, a former CNSI employee, exerted undue influence in steering the Medicaid contract to Louisiana.


    According to a story in the New Orleans Times Picayne, the FBI also acccused CNSI of witness tampering in another case.


    “According to the FBI report in this Court’s possession, one of CNSI’s owners, in front of the other three owners, said if the employee ‘ever disclosed the misconduct at the company they would have him killed.’”
    In 2011, the State of South Dakota accused CNSI of overbilling for a state Medicaid website, according to a story by the Aberdeen News:

    The South Dakota Department of Social Services has paid $49.7 million so far for a new Medicaid processing system that at this point remains inoperable.



    The original contract was for $62.7 million, but the new system is now expected to cost far in excess of $80 million to complete and will take two to three more years to get running, according to court documents filed as part of a lawsuit between the contractor and the department.



    The company that eventually won the contract, Client Network Services Inc. of Maryland, submitted a proposal in 2007, later participated in another final-and-best offer round, and was awarded the contract in June 2008.
    MI and IL also had some problems with CNSI

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    There is no excuse for the crap this company put out. Software projects are invariably buggy at inception. But you don't release it without thorough testing. This company reportedly gave it only three days testing. That outfit owes us every dime back on that project. They took a contract and could not deliver. Not only, that they failed to follow due diligence.

    While I am not surprised that there are bugs, the extent of the bugs is mind boggling. My wife and son are software engineers. They will tell you that always unexpected weaknesses in the project when it goes prime time. But, the Healthcare system should not have been let out of the bag without thorough testing and they had adequate time to do it.

    I worked on an in house software project for the State of Minnesota's Department of Human Services. It was a complex system that took 4 years to develop. I was one of the testers on the project. The program went through very extensive testing over that time and some of us delighted in finding all the ways we could bust it. Even so it had a few minor bugs when launched.
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    Our insurance got cancelled. DH is an IT consultant. I was told to stay far far away while researching our options. Hospitals are terrified because online records can be secured internally but not beyond their systems.
    It is worse than the public knows.
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    In Vermont:
    A report from state to federal officials overseeing the health insurance exchanges set up under the Affordable Care Act said a consumer reported the incident with the Vermont Health Connect website on Oct. 17.


    The consumer, whom officials would not identify, reported that he received in the mail — from an unnamed sender — a copy of his own application for insurance under the state exchange.


    “On the back of the envelope was hand-written ‘VERMONT HEALTH CONNECT IS NOT A SECURE WEBSITE!’ This was also (written) on the back of the last page of the printed out application,” said the incident report.
    As Vermont is shifting to a single-payer system in the coming years, individual insurance plans will be illegal in the state as of the end of this year and people without employer-provided insurance will be put on the exchange. Thousands of Vermont residents could be without insurance if the exchange website continues to have these errors.
    It will be interesting to see how VT's shift to single-payer plays out for them. We do know that MA's program has been very costly.

    Does anyone know what happens with such state-run single-payer plans if an insured gets treatment outside of the home state? How does it work if you live in VT or MA and want to go to Sloan-Kettering in NY for cancer treatment.

    We know that exchanges in NY even eliminate certain doctors and hospitals within their own state from their "approved" networks. Same in CA. It would also seem that those states (under a Federal law) could also easily exclude drs and hospitals that were outside their own state. What happens to the insureds then?
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    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...-on-exchanges/
    In another development, GoHealthInsurance.com announced Monday that it has become the first private insurer to integrate with the so-called Federal Data Service Hub --- which includes IRS, citizenship and other personal information. So Americans can now use that as well to bypass the federal site and enroll in health plans under ObamaCare that kick in next year.
    How could this company succeed in doing what the govt website can't do? Sounds strange to me.

    The govt website won't be fully functional by 11/30 as promised.
    Trouble with the HealthCare.gov site appears to be so widespread that the Obama administration has opened the door for Americans to circumvent the site altogether.


    Under a plan announced Friday by the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, the government would allow people to deal directly with insurance companies instead of through the federally run exchange website. The move comes as the administration's self-imposed Nov. 30 deadline for fixing the site is just days away, and officials acknowledge it may not be fully operational by then.
    Bataille said that direct enrollment has “been there from the start.” But the option was limited by the website problems, which have been fixed to the extent that insurance companies can now send applications to the site to assess enrollees' eligibility for coverage and potential discounts on premiums, she said.
    The govt website can now handle 50,000 users before it locks up. At least that's better than the 1,100 at its debut.
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    http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...hanson?splash=

    I think this piece explains why socialism and communism have never worked.

    It is not because humans are inherently "evil". It is just because survival instinct is part of our most primal genetic blueprint. It also seems to be part of our "blueprint" to be charitable. When govt takes away the need for individual charitable action (the govt takes care of it), then we probably are not better for that.
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